cheap hour building??
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cheap hour building??
Anyone flown in the USA recently?? . .I am struggling to get enough hours to unfreeze my ATPL by June 02 so I am wanting to do some more flying stateside. I am eager to find the cheapest flying possible in the US so if anyone can help me out I'd appreciate it!!. .email me or post info on this topic
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£54/hour?
You could fly for a quarter of that down the road at White Waltham!
No, not the club! The single seat Jodel, Turbulent and Luton Minors. Variable costs from £9 per hour wet. (Fixed costs for hangarage and insurance about £30 per month). You wont fly cheeper than that unless you're paid to do it!
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You could fly for a quarter of that down the road at White Waltham!
No, not the club! The single seat Jodel, Turbulent and Luton Minors. Variable costs from £9 per hour wet. (Fixed costs for hangarage and insurance about £30 per month). You wont fly cheeper than that unless you're paid to do it!
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hushkit77,
Try Debenair Aviation in Titusville Fl. (KTIX) They are a very friendly company with clean and comfortable aircraft with good maintenance. If you get a block booking it'll cost approx ($40 wet) p/h. If you want anymore info let me know and I'll mail it to you!
Cheers
Try Debenair Aviation in Titusville Fl. (KTIX) They are a very friendly company with clean and comfortable aircraft with good maintenance. If you get a block booking it'll cost approx ($40 wet) p/h. If you want anymore info let me know and I'll mail it to you!
Cheers
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Huskit77
Not to put a dampener on anything but remember cheapest is not always the best and thats from experience. . .Afterall as most things in life, you pay for what you get and at the end of the day your life is priceless.
Good Luck
Not to put a dampener on anything but remember cheapest is not always the best and thats from experience. . .Afterall as most things in life, you pay for what you get and at the end of the day your life is priceless.
Good Luck
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cheers guys for all the info...Ive flown in the states before at ADP in LA so I know all about dodgy planes. The best deal they can do is about $52/hr for block of 50hrs in an Archer...I will check out Debenair also. Thanks.
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If you are UK based and need a large lump of hours, the cheapest way by far is to get a cheap permit aircraft, and fly the pants off it.
For example, you need 200 hrs...
Buy a Minimax or similar for £5k.. .Fly 200 hrs for ~£20/hr fuel + parts + servicing. .Sell it for £4k
Total cost: £5000, or £25/hr.
Not only that, but you'll probably have had far more fun than hiring a 152, and don't need to fit in with the needs of the rest of a syndicate.
Looking at the current Popular Flying classified ads, you could have...
Druine Turbulent with VW, £6,100. .MW7 with 532, £3,995. .Quickie Q200 with 0-200, £8,995
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For example, you need 200 hrs...
Buy a Minimax or similar for £5k.. .Fly 200 hrs for ~£20/hr fuel + parts + servicing. .Sell it for £4k
Total cost: £5000, or £25/hr.
Not only that, but you'll probably have had far more fun than hiring a 152, and don't need to fit in with the needs of the rest of a syndicate.
Looking at the current Popular Flying classified ads, you could have...
Druine Turbulent with VW, £6,100. .MW7 with 532, £3,995. .Quickie Q200 with 0-200, £8,995
G
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I hear what you guys are saying about using PFA type aircraft for cheap flying (and as a PFA inspector i suport this aim) but these types tend to be more limited in the fact that they cannot fly at night or IFR also they tend to be more weather critical after all on a fine winters day would you fly for 4 hours in an open cockpit aircraft ?.
Also what i was proposing requires only a small amount of money up front not the £5K a lump sum that few wannabes can risk having invested in an aircraft that they cannot sell quickly (IE over the winter)when the thing is still atracting hangar or parking charges and then what if disaster strikes and the thing needs a new engine can the average wannabe run to the cost of engine replacment ?.
My aim is to give the hours builder a cheap well maintained aircraft at a cost that is compeditive with going to the USA when you take into account the airline ticket and hotel costs ,I cant do this with out the aircraft having a PT C of A as technicaly the aircraft is flying for hire.
So £54 would get the wannabe an hours flying from take off to landing (aprox 1+10 chock to chock)with out any other commitments apart from the diposit to cover the insurance exess ,this of course he would get back when he finnished flying the aircraft (if he had not bent it !).
Also what i was proposing requires only a small amount of money up front not the £5K a lump sum that few wannabes can risk having invested in an aircraft that they cannot sell quickly (IE over the winter)when the thing is still atracting hangar or parking charges and then what if disaster strikes and the thing needs a new engine can the average wannabe run to the cost of engine replacment ?.
My aim is to give the hours builder a cheap well maintained aircraft at a cost that is compeditive with going to the USA when you take into account the airline ticket and hotel costs ,I cant do this with out the aircraft having a PT C of A as technicaly the aircraft is flying for hire.
So £54 would get the wannabe an hours flying from take off to landing (aprox 1+10 chock to chock)with out any other commitments apart from the diposit to cover the insurance exess ,this of course he would get back when he finnished flying the aircraft (if he had not bent it !).
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Genghis the Engineer,
Exactly what I did.
Purchased an MS880B (Rallye 100) cost 10.5K. .Sold, exactly 12 months later for 9.5K
My logbook grew with 400 hours for that. Not bad seing I was in a full time job at the time as well.
Would I recomend it - maybe - there are risks involved. I was lucky as I sold it before the real liabilities occured.
PS
btw, it was a useless a/c, but great fun in the circuit, specialy doing short field stuff.
Exactly what I did.
Purchased an MS880B (Rallye 100) cost 10.5K. .Sold, exactly 12 months later for 9.5K
My logbook grew with 400 hours for that. Not bad seing I was in a full time job at the time as well.
Would I recomend it - maybe - there are risks involved. I was lucky as I sold it before the real liabilities occured.
PS
btw, it was a useless a/c, but great fun in the circuit, specialy doing short field stuff.
