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Old 3rd May 2023, 22:37
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Look Iím not trying to be the bad guy here but something like this takes a lot of careful planning. Probably takes a year to get everything lined up.
Short list of schools, contact schools, find one, something goes wrong, find another school, contact former students for review and references, contact immigration attorney, what are the options if you want to switch schools, apply for the visa and secure financing yadayadayada.
This all takes a lot of time.
Trust me when is say I have a lot of experience with this, like 10+ years.
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Old 3rd May 2023, 23:34
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Originally Posted by B2N2
Look Iím not trying to be the bad guy here but something like this takes a lot of careful planning. Probably takes a year to get everything lined up.
Short list of schools, contact schools, find one, something goes wrong, find another school, contact former students for review and references, contact immigration attorney, what are the options if you want to switch schools, apply for the visa and secure financing yadayadayada.
This all takes a lot of time.
Trust me when is say I have a lot of experience with this, like 10+ years.
I fully trust you! I am sorry, if you thought otherwise. I am following your advice to first focus on Lufthansa aka Europe. I mean after all, I will get a greencard in 15 years and than I can see if I want to immigrate and get through the conversion process. But I really thank you for all the advice you gave me the past few weeks!
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Old 4th May 2023, 00:27
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Fortunately you have the luxury of being young and having choices:
1. Try Lufthansa Flight Academy, should you not pass the assessments,
2. F1/J1 Flight training in the US and working ( as an instructor ) till you have your ATP (2-2.5 years)
3. Back to Europe for EASA conversions (6-9 months)
4. Look for jobs worldwide with both EASA and FAA certificates.
5. In 12-15 years with 7-9000 hrs turbojet and PIC time back to the US ( should you so desire) for another 20-25 year career with one of the Major airlines.

Those are some very good prospects.
Thats a plan A,B,C and D
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Old 11th May 2023, 14:32
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If you have the opportunity then absolutely go fly outside of the US.
You make it sound like itís easy to get hired at FedEx. Itís probably one of the most difficult to get into in the US.
You would need 1500hrs TT to get hired by a Regional which means starting a career in Europe would give you a jumpstart.

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Thanks for your response B2N2. I meant that FDX/CGN would have been a great career goal for me. One of the first things I learned about the profession is that FDX and UPS are one of the most sought after positions. Is there anything you can start doing early on to increase your chances?
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Since youíre still on the path to getting any sort of a pilotís license, from personal experience, a University 141 school can be a really good option. Fairly high rigor, a regimented curriculum, and, generally a fairly deep instructor pool. Stand-alone 141s can be a lot sketchier. In either situations the stage checks are a great, no real jeopardy way, to figure out if youíre missing something, or just arenít cutting the mustard.
Look closely at what the school flies, and take it into consideration.
I learned at the University of Illinois back in the 80ís, and really got my moneys worth (they flew beech sport 180ís as trainers back then which was comparable with local private instructors in terms of cost). I live in proximity to WMU which flies Cirrus aircraft with a quoted rate plus instructor of upwards of $300/hr. Many of the students defect while still in school to get their Private certificate from a local examiner, in a 150 or 172 simply due to cost.
Indiana state University might be worth a look, they fly almost exclusively diamonds, and I think a Saratoga for single commercial as well as a DA-60 for multi work. They seem to know what theyíre doingÖ
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