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CAA move the goal posts

Old 6th Oct 2020, 15:16
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CAA move the goal posts

The CAA website has just been amended to include this statement:

"The CAA will to continue to recognise EASA Theoretical Knowledge certificates that are current (and within their validity dates) on 31 December 2020 for up to two years after the end of the transition period toward satisfying the requirements for the issue of a UK CAA licence. Any exams completed under the auspices of an EASA Member State’s competent authority after 31 December 2020 will not be recognised toward meeting the requirements for the issue of a UK CAA licence."

This only really affects pilots using Austro or similar who decided not to change their SOLI out of the UK. It seems to me that the best advice for them, if unable to complete before the end of the year, would be to change their SOLI now, get an EASA licence, and then get a UK CAA licence issued on the basis of their existing EASA licence sometime next year. Bad form for the CAA to announce this so late in the day, they have had plenty of time to sort their policy out.
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Old 6th Oct 2020, 16:06
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It's not exactly goal post moving, is it ?

31 Dec 20 is the final day of the Brexit transition period, so it's hardly surprising. They seem to be doing people a favour with a two year extension.
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Old 6th Oct 2020, 16:26
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Well it depends how you viewed their earlier statements such as "The CAA intends to continue to recognise EASA certificates for an initial period of up to two years, but no decision has been made about ongoing validity after this period." Many, including me, assumed this covered exam pass certificates from other member States. They have now added 'current (and valid)' before the word 'EASA' and moved it from being a general statement on their website to being a specific answer about ATO approval certificates.

If EASA ATO approval certificates are 'recognised' then presumably that means the training at EASA ATOs is 'recognised'. What they are now saying is that theory exams taken under the aegis of other States will not be. The status of EASA flight test pass certificates after this year is now unclear, but their original statement was clear enough. They don't help the industry, this bunch, their intentions are (may be) good but their complete lack of consultation and accountability is shameful.

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Old 7th Oct 2020, 11:26
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Hi Alex, just a small question if someone has passed their easa atpls under austro control this year, does this mean they now have 2 years validity instead of the previous 3 years before they expire?
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Old 7th Oct 2020, 11:58
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For issue of a UK licence? Yes 'up to 2 years' is the phrase.
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Old 7th Oct 2020, 12:17
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Originally Posted by r10bbr View Post
.........passed their easa atpls under austro control this year, does this mean they now?
You stated previously that you passed all 14 EASA exams by 30 April 2018. You have three years from then to complete.
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Old 15th Oct 2020, 09:53
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When are we all going to learn our mistakes with dealing with Belgrano?
UK CAA to JAR/JAA, square root of zero help from the CAA,
JAR/JAA to EASA, square root of zero help from the CAA,
EASA to the Golden Club of the CAA, square root of zero help apart from all the negative emails from Belgrano.
Final straw this morning, email from Belgrano to all CTKIs, and again SQUARE ROOT OF ZERO HELP OR ADVICE.
Wake up Gatwick!!
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 14:03
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What about a UK issued Class 1 medical after 31 Dec? Will that also not be considered EASA anymore when doing the SOLI for licence issue? So therefore for those people stuck in the middle, they will have exams not recognised and also the Class 1 not recognised either? Or is it just the exams that loose the EASA approval?
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Old 18th Oct 2020, 14:10
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^ I too am worried about this, i have my initial class one tomorrow, and wonder what it will mean and to who after 31 Dec!
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