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IR(R) training in permit aircraft

Old 6th Jun 2020, 17:45
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IR(R) training in permit aircraft

Hi All,

I’ve had a read of ORS4 No.1393 which indicates that an owner of a permit aircraft can use that aircraft for their own flight training with an instructor.

Does anyone know if this includes IR(R)?

The plan I am researching is to buy an IFR permitted permit to fly aircraft to do IR(R) training in and then build up IR time in it to count towards CBIR.

In terms of aircraft, I am working my way through the LAA list of permit aircraft likely to be cleared for IFR to weed out the ones that are too hard to come by, too expensive or otherwise unsuitable.

Any and all words of wisdom gratefully received!
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Old 6th Jun 2020, 20:04
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Do you want to save money or do you genuinely want to own a permit aircraft?
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Old 6th Jun 2020, 20:52
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Good question!

I do just want to own my own aircraft as I never have and I feel like it will be different to renting/group. I reason that I want to own an aircraft as I want to be able to fly most Saturday mornings, and whenever I can, from the airfield near my house (once I can get hangarage).

I think I want a permit aircraft so that it is cheaper to maintain.








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Old 12th Jun 2020, 10:18
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Fair enough. As a private owner who flies for fun an IR(R) should be enough, you only need an IR if you need to fly in airways.

However, if you want that IR because you want to fly commercially, then owning your own will definitely be more expensive and riskier than the other viable options (group share, non equity share, flying in the US)
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Old 12th Jun 2020, 11:07
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A fundamental problem is not the training, it's the tiny list of Permit aircraft capable of being legally flown IFR.

Frankly, for that specific purpose, I'd buy a share in something with a CofA and decent instruments.

And possibly *also* buy a Permit aircraft, or a share in a Permit aircraft. [He says having for years had shares for years in both an IFR tourer - on which I did my IR(R), and one of several successive VFR only nice, cheap, fun aeroplanes.)

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