Instructing on a PPL
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Instructing on a PPL
I heard that they are thinking of bringing out an instructors course for the PPL pilot, as a result of the shortage of instructors. Does anybody know anything about this? Any information on this topic is much appreciated.
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What shortage of instructors would that be then???
There has been talk of the NPPL coming for some time now, but who knows when. It has been suggested that when this comes there ‘may’ be some sort of National restricted FI rating for NPPL only. At the current speed of bureaucracy, that will be at least a couple of years away.
The current situation is, that to become an FI, you must be able to demonstrate a theory knowledge at CPL level. That in short means that you must sit the ATPL exams, as there are no CPL ground school courses or exams available at the moment.
Then, if you wish to be paid, (and I use the term loosely) you must have a CPL.
Things may change, but not for some time I suspect.
CP
There has been talk of the NPPL coming for some time now, but who knows when. It has been suggested that when this comes there ‘may’ be some sort of National restricted FI rating for NPPL only. At the current speed of bureaucracy, that will be at least a couple of years away.
The current situation is, that to become an FI, you must be able to demonstrate a theory knowledge at CPL level. That in short means that you must sit the ATPL exams, as there are no CPL ground school courses or exams available at the moment.
Then, if you wish to be paid, (and I use the term loosely) you must have a CPL.
Things may change, but not for some time I suspect.
CP
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The subject of conducting flight instruction with an NPPL only will not even be on the NPPL Steering Committee agenda until after the NPPL has been launched.
One distinct advantage of not introducing non-JAR/FCL approved FIs is that if all instruction for an NPPL is conducted by JAR/FCL approved FIs, if the applicant has sat the JAR/FCL PPL exams and has a Class 2 medical, then all hours flown under instruction for a NPPL will count towards a JAR/FCL PPL later on. This has recently been confirmed by the JAA. In other words a pilot will be able to train for a NPPL first (with its lower medical requirements); then at some stage in the future if it is wished to fly at night or in IMC (UK) or under VFR (outside UK), the pilot gets a Class 2 medical, completes the remainder of the traning requirements towards a JAR/FCL PPL (which may include night qualification) and then on to the IMC Rating.
I will certainly be looking at a way of restructuring the course we conduct to allow for an 'early' NPPL with its attendant restrictions and a later 'top up' course for the JAR/FCL PPL including night qualification. The only drawback to the applicant will be that there will be the 2 NPPL tests to pay for, the NPPL (lifetime) issue fee and then at a later date the JAR/FCL PPL Skill Test and JAR/FCL PPL (5 year) issue fee. But it may be that a pilot would be happy to do a NPPL first, then complete JAR/FCL PPL requirements a couple of years later.....only market demand will confirm that.
The other area of uncertainty is whether having passed the JAR/FCL exams in order to obtain a NPPL, there will still be a requirement to complete all JAR/FCL PPL requirements within the following 2 years.
[ 02 December 2001: Message edited by: BEagle ]
One distinct advantage of not introducing non-JAR/FCL approved FIs is that if all instruction for an NPPL is conducted by JAR/FCL approved FIs, if the applicant has sat the JAR/FCL PPL exams and has a Class 2 medical, then all hours flown under instruction for a NPPL will count towards a JAR/FCL PPL later on. This has recently been confirmed by the JAA. In other words a pilot will be able to train for a NPPL first (with its lower medical requirements); then at some stage in the future if it is wished to fly at night or in IMC (UK) or under VFR (outside UK), the pilot gets a Class 2 medical, completes the remainder of the traning requirements towards a JAR/FCL PPL (which may include night qualification) and then on to the IMC Rating.
I will certainly be looking at a way of restructuring the course we conduct to allow for an 'early' NPPL with its attendant restrictions and a later 'top up' course for the JAR/FCL PPL including night qualification. The only drawback to the applicant will be that there will be the 2 NPPL tests to pay for, the NPPL (lifetime) issue fee and then at a later date the JAR/FCL PPL Skill Test and JAR/FCL PPL (5 year) issue fee. But it may be that a pilot would be happy to do a NPPL first, then complete JAR/FCL PPL requirements a couple of years later.....only market demand will confirm that.
The other area of uncertainty is whether having passed the JAR/FCL exams in order to obtain a NPPL, there will still be a requirement to complete all JAR/FCL PPL requirements within the following 2 years.
[ 02 December 2001: Message edited by: BEagle ]
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You have always been able to instruct on a PPL nothing has changed under JAR-FCL. The only point to note is that you cannot be remunerated for instructing on a PPL unless you are a Microlight, SLMG or Grandfather rights helicopter instructor.
You do of course need CPL level knowledge to instruct on your PPL.
You do of course need CPL level knowledge to instruct on your PPL.
