Need to convert my ICAO to EASA
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Need to convert my ICAO to EASA
Hi there guys,
I got CPL ME IR from Canada, and just recently finished the 14 ATPL EASA exams in the UK.
I got now to convert my licenses from ICAO to EASA.
I wonder if it matters where I obtain my licenses - whether if it's in the UK, or any other country in Europe.
In your opinion, when an HR got a pile of resumes for a first officer position, how much weight do they give to the country when it comes to flight training?
Let's say Airlines like Ryanair, easyJet, Jet2, Thompson, flyBe.
I've heard different ideas regarding western & eastern Europe.
What are the more important things they wish to find in a resume when it comes to a First Officer position?
And, any recommendation for a good school in Europe to convert my CPL ME IR?
Thanks a lot!
I got CPL ME IR from Canada, and just recently finished the 14 ATPL EASA exams in the UK.
I got now to convert my licenses from ICAO to EASA.
I wonder if it matters where I obtain my licenses - whether if it's in the UK, or any other country in Europe.
In your opinion, when an HR got a pile of resumes for a first officer position, how much weight do they give to the country when it comes to flight training?
Let's say Airlines like Ryanair, easyJet, Jet2, Thompson, flyBe.
I've heard different ideas regarding western & eastern Europe.
What are the more important things they wish to find in a resume when it comes to a First Officer position?
And, any recommendation for a good school in Europe to convert my CPL ME IR?
Thanks a lot!
Last edited by eitiz2; 12th February 2017 at 16:11.
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Bartolini Air doesn't do conversions. Give a look at Diamond Academy in Kalmar, Sweden. I know two (CASA and FAA licence respectively) that will probably convert their licence and ratings there after their ATPL exams.
And as long as you have an EASA licence, the country where you did your training is irrelevant.
And as long as you have an EASA licence, the country where you did your training is irrelevant.
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If you want an easy system to work through.
Then Ireland may be best.
Atlantic in Cork is a good choice, with a medical in Dublin.
Diamond is Sweden may also be a good choice.
But how are the medical and licensing agencies?
I find that the authorities in the UK and Spain, are just hard to deal with.
Tell us, how did you do your 14 ATPL written from Canada? .
Then Ireland may be best.
Atlantic in Cork is a good choice, with a medical in Dublin.
Diamond is Sweden may also be a good choice.
But how are the medical and licensing agencies?
I find that the authorities in the UK and Spain, are just hard to deal with.
Tell us, how did you do your 14 ATPL written from Canada? .
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First of all thank you for answering guys!
Bartolini and Diamond both are too busy for conversions, already talked to them.
Right now initial medical in the UK is available within a few days!
I did my exams in the UK.
I actually found that Greece got a few great schools : Egnatia, Global SA aviation, Skies academy. And they are half priced than UK.
My concern is about the HR. What they think about new pilots that trained in Eastern Europe?
What do you think?
Bartolini and Diamond both are too busy for conversions, already talked to them.
Right now initial medical in the UK is available within a few days!
I did my exams in the UK.
I actually found that Greece got a few great schools : Egnatia, Global SA aviation, Skies academy. And they are half priced than UK.
My concern is about the HR. What they think about new pilots that trained in Eastern Europe?
What do you think?
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If all your training so far has been on DA-20, DA-40 and DA-42s then I would go with Diamond.
If you've been a six pack, steam gauge, old school person, then Atlantic may be your best bet.
I think the CAA in the UK is making a huge mistake by being so user unfriendly.
If you've been a six pack, steam gauge, old school person, then Atlantic may be your best bet.
I think the CAA in the UK is making a huge mistake by being so user unfriendly.
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The Hellenic CAA have the most friendly interpretation of EASA regulations leading to a cost of around €10K all in for a CPL/IR/ME on ICAO conversion. Two ATOs to talk to are Egnatia and Global Aviation. Egnatia are slightly more expensive (€10K as opposed to €9K last time I looked, but check for yourself) and fly Diamonds, Global use the Duchess.
Diamond in Sweden are very well spoken of, I have no idea what they would charge. As commented above Bartolini do not do conversions, they are at full stretch doing full CPL IR courses.
Diamond in Sweden are very well spoken of, I have no idea what they would charge. As commented above Bartolini do not do conversions, they are at full stretch doing full CPL IR courses.
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Eitiz2: We are about a year behind you.
I'm trying to decide if to do the full 650 hour ground course with a FAA PPL at age 17 and 200+ hours.
Or wait until she's 18 with a FAA Comm/Inst/Multi, and do a conversion.
Were you able to find a reduced hours course to do the 14 exams, for CPL/IR holders?
Gulf Coast Training Solution and Captonline do offer reduced hour courses, but look more designed for working students.
We were looking more towards full time.
Heck, I'm even thinking of a private tutor.
I've spoken with Cyprus, but have not looked into Greece.
I'd be very interested in finding out what you chose and how it works out.
So far, I've been all over the place. Latvia, Sweden, Ireland, England, Scotland, Cyprus, Malta, Spain, Florida, Poland.
I can't make up my mind.
I'm trying to decide if to do the full 650 hour ground course with a FAA PPL at age 17 and 200+ hours.
Or wait until she's 18 with a FAA Comm/Inst/Multi, and do a conversion.
Were you able to find a reduced hours course to do the 14 exams, for CPL/IR holders?
Gulf Coast Training Solution and Captonline do offer reduced hour courses, but look more designed for working students.
We were looking more towards full time.
Heck, I'm even thinking of a private tutor.
I've spoken with Cyprus, but have not looked into Greece.
I'd be very interested in finding out what you chose and how it works out.
So far, I've been all over the place. Latvia, Sweden, Ireland, England, Scotland, Cyprus, Malta, Spain, Florida, Poland.
I can't make up my mind.
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The Hellenic CAA have the most friendly interpretation of EASA regulations leading to a cost of around €10K all in for a CPL/IR/ME on ICAO conversion. Two ATOs to talk to are Egnatia and Global Aviation. Egnatia are slightly more expensive (€10K as opposed to €9K last time I looked, but check for yourself) and fly Diamonds, Global use the Duchess.
Diamond in Sweden are very well spoken of, I have no idea what they would charge. As commented above Bartolini do not do conversions, they are at full stretch doing full CPL IR courses.
Diamond in Sweden are very well spoken of, I have no idea what they would charge. As commented above Bartolini do not do conversions, they are at full stretch doing full CPL IR courses.
Hi Alex,
Did you hear about Skies Aviation Academy?
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Eitiz2: We are about a year behind you.
I'm trying to decide if to do the full 650 hour ground course with a FAA PPL at age 17 and 200+ hours.
Or wait until she's 18 with a FAA Comm/Inst/Multi, and do a conversion.
Were you able to find a reduced hours course to do the 14 exams, for CPL/IR holders?
Gulf Coast Training Solution and Captonline do offer reduced hour courses, but look more designed for working students.
We were looking more towards full time.
Heck, I'm even thinking of a private tutor.
I've spoken with Cyprus, but have not looked into Greece.
I'd be very interested in finding out what you chose and how it works out.
So far, I've been all over the place. Latvia, Sweden, Ireland, England, Scotland, Cyprus, Malta, Spain, Florida, Poland.
I can't make up my mind.
I'm trying to decide if to do the full 650 hour ground course with a FAA PPL at age 17 and 200+ hours.
Or wait until she's 18 with a FAA Comm/Inst/Multi, and do a conversion.
Were you able to find a reduced hours course to do the 14 exams, for CPL/IR holders?
Gulf Coast Training Solution and Captonline do offer reduced hour courses, but look more designed for working students.
We were looking more towards full time.
Heck, I'm even thinking of a private tutor.
I've spoken with Cyprus, but have not looked into Greece.
I'd be very interested in finding out what you chose and how it works out.
So far, I've been all over the place. Latvia, Sweden, Ireland, England, Scotland, Cyprus, Malta, Spain, Florida, Poland.
I can't make up my mind.
I have a strong lesson for you: "What is cheap at the beginning, gets really expensive at the end!" or in other words : "You get what you pay for!"
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No, I don't know Skies Academy, I'm afraid. Button push ignored, whether your daughter does a 650 hour course with a PPL or a theoretically reduced conversion course with an FAA CPL she will still have the same sort of task in front of her and the exams will still take roughly the same amount of study time, there being little difference in starting knowledge between a PPL candidate and the holder of a bare FAA CPL. We only see significant reductions in study time when the candidate has quite some experience, maybe CFII standard. Some of the experience FAA instructors here might give some guidance.
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eitiz2: I'm not looking just for the cheapest route, I'm looking at all routes, from the cheapest to the most expensive. CTC with A-320 type is still an option.
Alex: I've looked into a reduced course, and have come to the same conclusion, it won't work. Back to plan A.
There is always plan C: Not bother with this EASA thing at this time, and just fly pt135 in the US whilst doing an on-line degree.
It's just those darn A-320 carrots dangling in front of you.
Alex: I've looked into a reduced course, and have come to the same conclusion, it won't work. Back to plan A.
There is always plan C: Not bother with this EASA thing at this time, and just fly pt135 in the US whilst doing an on-line degree.
It's just those darn A-320 carrots dangling in front of you.
