Fte or Ctc
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Fte or Ctc
hey guys,
after countless hours of reading and debating with my self, im still not sure...
in terms on airline placement upon graduation which one as the "upper hand" ?
in addition what's the best way to get ready for the selection days?
i know i cant really improve my skills at the aptitude test but i would like to know what im going in to, ive found those 2:pilotaptitudetest and this one at latestpilotjobs any one tried them and can recommend?
after countless hours of reading and debating with my self, im still not sure...
in terms on airline placement upon graduation which one as the "upper hand" ?
in addition what's the best way to get ready for the selection days?
i know i cant really improve my skills at the aptitude test but i would like to know what im going in to, ive found those 2:pilotaptitudetest and this one at latestpilotjobs any one tried them and can recommend?
Last edited by tryu; 10th February 2017 at 12:38.
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Your location is marked as Tel Aviv.
Are you an Israeli citizen?
Do you have the right to work in the UK or the EU?
I'm not sure that either FTE Jerez, or CTC Wings will be able to do much for you if your employment is limited.
If you just want a good UK based flight school, there are many.
In fact they are all very good.
Just ask.
Or consider the US.
But first I would talk to all the airlines and companies in the country where you have rights to work, and ask them what license and experience they need.
You CAN NOT make a decision upon looking at a brochure.
Are you an Israeli citizen?
Do you have the right to work in the UK or the EU?
I'm not sure that either FTE Jerez, or CTC Wings will be able to do much for you if your employment is limited.
If you just want a good UK based flight school, there are many.
In fact they are all very good.
Just ask.
Or consider the US.
But first I would talk to all the airlines and companies in the country where you have rights to work, and ask them what license and experience they need.
You CAN NOT make a decision upon looking at a brochure.
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From: My Secret Island Lair
CTC.
or FTE.
(if you can't decide after all that research, and there are truly no other factors discernable, such as cost, location, aircraft etc, flip a coin).
or FTE.
(if you can't decide after all that research, and there are truly no other factors discernable, such as cost, location, aircraft etc, flip a coin).
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Do you have the funds available to pay for 'The Full Monty'.
A-320 type ratings run about 30,000.
if you can pay for everything then CTC may be your best bet.
But if your funds are somewhat limited.
Then go with what you can afford.
There are many ways to do this.
You can pay 120,000 pounds, or you can pay 25,000.
It's your choice.
Or rather it's 'what ever you can afford'.
A-320 type ratings run about 30,000.
if you can pay for everything then CTC may be your best bet.
But if your funds are somewhat limited.
Then go with what you can afford.
There are many ways to do this.
You can pay 120,000 pounds, or you can pay 25,000.
It's your choice.
Or rather it's 'what ever you can afford'.
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Amauri and I, both believe in doing it as cheaply as possible.
But to some people one hundred grand is chump change.
If your flush with money.
Then by all means go spend it.
A word of warning.
You are being watched and graded on everything you do every day.
To me, CTC is the place to go if you want to go all the way up to and including A-320/B737 type rating.
I wouldn't go there just for the (f) ATPL.
Sure FTE is a great school, but they do not offer what CTC can.
I think the goal for many people is to bypass FlyBE, and go to Easy/Ryan.
I see people not prepared to buy a type rating , yet are willing to sign a training contract.
Either way, your paying.
I hope TRYU has at least 150,000 pounds available.
But to some people one hundred grand is chump change.
If your flush with money.
Then by all means go spend it.
A word of warning.
You are being watched and graded on everything you do every day.
To me, CTC is the place to go if you want to go all the way up to and including A-320/B737 type rating.
I wouldn't go there just for the (f) ATPL.
Sure FTE is a great school, but they do not offer what CTC can.
I think the goal for many people is to bypass FlyBE, and go to Easy/Ryan.
I see people not prepared to buy a type rating , yet are willing to sign a training contract.
Either way, your paying.
I hope TRYU has at least 150,000 pounds available.
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CTC is not going out of business.
They are owned by Level 3.
L3 is a multi national conglomerate.
One kid from Ireland was recently asking about doing an integrated program at National in Ireland.
I spoke out against that idea.
With a company like that, I'd pay for one flying lesson at a time with a cheque.
But CTC isn't a problem.
I also speak out against people with no money going to CTC.
Some kids think that borrowing 100 grand is no big deal.
And it isn't.
Until you can't pay them back.
Whilst I'm a strong proponent of pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps.
I have no problem with people spending their, or their parents money on what ever they want.
Just don't come crying when all your dreams come crashing down.
They are owned by Level 3.
L3 is a multi national conglomerate.
One kid from Ireland was recently asking about doing an integrated program at National in Ireland.
I spoke out against that idea.
With a company like that, I'd pay for one flying lesson at a time with a cheque.
But CTC isn't a problem.
I also speak out against people with no money going to CTC.
Some kids think that borrowing 100 grand is no big deal.
And it isn't.
Until you can't pay them back.
Whilst I'm a strong proponent of pulling yourself up by your own bootstraps.
I have no problem with people spending their, or their parents money on what ever they want.
Just don't come crying when all your dreams come crashing down.
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The modular route is also worth considering......cheaper and might take longer, but you can do the final flying phase (CPL/IR course & tests) and then the MCC/JOC at well known schools.
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CTC is not going out of business.
They are owned by Level 3.
L3 is a multi national conglomerate.
They are owned by Level 3.
L3 is a multi national conglomerate.
L3 until last month was L-3 Communications Corporation but has now changed its corporate name to L3 Technologies, Inc.
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Anyway, CTC send most of theirs to easyjet and FTE to Norwegian, BA Cityflyer and Aer Lingus, so if you're after a particular airline it's worth selecting your FTO accordingly.
CTC pay for any extra training you need and retakes aswell, I'm not sure about the others.
Regardless of where you go make sure you can finance a type rating as that will make it a hella lot easier when it comes to job hunting.
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ZFT. This is the second time you have jumped down my throat about Level 3 changing their name to L3.
LEVEL 3, LEVEL 3, LEVEL3, LEVEL 3, LEVEL 3, LEVEL 3, LEVEL 3, LEVEL 3, LEVEL 3, LEVEL 3, LEVEL 3.
Who gives a damn?
LEVEL 3, LEVEL 3, LEVEL3, LEVEL 3, LEVEL 3, LEVEL 3, LEVEL 3, LEVEL 3, LEVEL 3, LEVEL 3, LEVEL 3.
Who gives a damn?
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worked very hard around 10 hours a day, 6 days a week and barely spent a penny.
ill take into consideration the TR cost as well something i did not do until now.
in addition while i agree you can do it much cheaper with other schools (and if you dont have the money i think it will be much smarter to go to those school, but if your welling to work hard and start a bit later or got the funds from family) if afterwords you'll need to spend more or less the same amount on finding a job/not working i rather put what i got to get the best shots...
ill take into consideration the TR cost as well something i did not do until now.
in addition while i agree you can do it much cheaper with other schools (and if you dont have the money i think it will be much smarter to go to those school, but if your welling to work hard and start a bit later or got the funds from family) if afterwords you'll need to spend more or less the same amount on finding a job/not working i rather put what i got to get the best shots...
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They are a lot more than comms, they have defence contracts as well, I believe they were involved in the RAF Nimrod and Rivet Joint projects, so they have some aviation experience. Sorry to divert the thread haha.
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Last time it was
Is someone upset because they didn't get in?
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By your own admission, you've done CTC selection at least twice.
You obviously were not successful in getting into CTC and are now at OAA.
Now, on this public forum where are you are supposedly not comfortable discussing CTC, you have made allegations that "dodgy things are occurring" at CTC and that their L3 merger is "fishy."
Come on mate.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a CTC lover in the slightest, but one can't just make accusations using terms like "dodgy" like you've done.
Now, on this public forum where are you are supposedly not comfortable discussing CTC, you have made allegations that "dodgy things are occurring" at CTC and that their L3 merger is "fishy."
Come on mate.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a CTC lover in the slightest, but one can't just make accusations using terms like "dodgy" like you've done.