BA Trainee eyesight requirement
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BA Eyesight - Stricter than CAA?
Having my second try for the BA CEP (got to FB last time). My eyesight prescription is -3, -3.25, so I think I would just about make the CAA Class 1 (especially with the new -5 rule) but BA quote a "6/24 uncorrected" eyesight requirement which I don't make. Does anyone know how rigorously this is enforced ie. if one made it through the FB and qualified for a Class 1, would BA reject on this alone? Has anyone passed the FB and failed the BA medical?
Ta, Rees24
Ta, Rees24
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Hi there Flying doctor, your not from Oz are you????? only joking anyway i am applying to BA having got to Final Board last year, however i now have a class one medical in my pocket. When i did the eyesight bit though, i had to use a different test to the ishihara plates for colour perception because i couldn't see them. But gladly after using the holmer-s-wright lantirn test???? i passed it with flyiong colours. Will this be a problem to BA???
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Sorry.. I am afraid that all I can tell you for sure is that you would be fine for JAA Class 1. I think BA do ask you to do the Ishihara plates at Gatwick for your Final medical but not sure (oh memory)
Sorry!
For all interested, see the JAA regs for Class 1 certification:
http://www.srg.caa.co.uk/pld/med/med...s_1_vision.htm
GOOD LUCK!
FD
Sorry!
For all interested, see the JAA regs for Class 1 certification:
http://www.srg.caa.co.uk/pld/med/med...s_1_vision.htm
GOOD LUCK!
FD
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Hi Rees24
I am in a similar situation to you regarding my eyesight. In relation to your direct question regarding BA I am afraid I cannot comment directly, but your post raises a number of interesting questions.
Firstly given the litigation culture we live in these days where any form of discrimination seems taboo, how long will it be before this company policy is challenged in the courts by a disgruntled wannabee. If the CAA/JAA have established a limit surely that limit must apply to all companies based in UK/Europe. It would be interesting know the basis for having any unassisted vision standards at all assuming that corrected vision met 20/20 standards.
My next point is that you can improve your eyesight. I have a South African PPL and will be coming back to the UK to get my Class1 medical and continue my training there. I intend to perfect my vision in the next few months. You can do this by exercising the eyes just as your train your body in the gym. There are some very good postings on Pprune as how to do this.
The Bates method is one way to improve eyesight and if you search the net you can find a few sites explaining it. There is also a site called America20/20 or something like that which I found worth a look. I know these exercises work! Furthermore I have improved my eyes by about 0.5 dioptres. The main thing is a healthy lifestyle and dedication to doing the exercises. There are people that may say the above is a load of bollocks but no one has scientifically disproved that Bates and exercising the eyes doesn't improve them.
All the best with BA
I am in a similar situation to you regarding my eyesight. In relation to your direct question regarding BA I am afraid I cannot comment directly, but your post raises a number of interesting questions.
Firstly given the litigation culture we live in these days where any form of discrimination seems taboo, how long will it be before this company policy is challenged in the courts by a disgruntled wannabee. If the CAA/JAA have established a limit surely that limit must apply to all companies based in UK/Europe. It would be interesting know the basis for having any unassisted vision standards at all assuming that corrected vision met 20/20 standards.
My next point is that you can improve your eyesight. I have a South African PPL and will be coming back to the UK to get my Class1 medical and continue my training there. I intend to perfect my vision in the next few months. You can do this by exercising the eyes just as your train your body in the gym. There are some very good postings on Pprune as how to do this.
The Bates method is one way to improve eyesight and if you search the net you can find a few sites explaining it. There is also a site called America20/20 or something like that which I found worth a look. I know these exercises work! Furthermore I have improved my eyes by about 0.5 dioptres. The main thing is a healthy lifestyle and dedication to doing the exercises. There are people that may say the above is a load of bollocks but no one has scientifically disproved that Bates and exercising the eyes doesn't improve them.
All the best with BA
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BA Trainee eyesight requirement
Any thoughts on the topic? Any applicants who passed BA's final medical even though their eyesight were out of the 6/24 limit?
Or any applicants failed this final stage of selection at the BA medical but passed CAA Class 1 medical? (Ever thought of sueing BA?)
I myself fit into the "Within CAA Class 1 but outside BA's eyesight requirement" bracket, and would like to know my chances of the sponsorship with this handicap.
Cheers
Or any applicants failed this final stage of selection at the BA medical but passed CAA Class 1 medical? (Ever thought of sueing BA?)
I myself fit into the "Within CAA Class 1 but outside BA's eyesight requirement" bracket, and would like to know my chances of the sponsorship with this handicap.
Cheers
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You can't/shouldn't be able to sue BA for imposing their own requirements for entry - though I don't expect that to stop someone from trying nowadays 
You might as well sue them for asking for GCSE grades that you haven't got. It's a selection tool, as well as having a understandable foundation in operational requirements.
eg. you have 2 guys, all equal aptitude and qualifications, one with perfect eyesight, one with pretty thick specs; which do you pick?
BTW am not discriminating against speccy chaps - am 1 myself. Please don't sue!
BA aren't the only company to offer sponsorship - but the only one (I know of) with their own strict eyesight reqts. Keep looking around and give it some time before you part with your hard-earned!
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You might as well sue them for asking for GCSE grades that you haven't got. It's a selection tool, as well as having a understandable foundation in operational requirements.
eg. you have 2 guys, all equal aptitude and qualifications, one with perfect eyesight, one with pretty thick specs; which do you pick?
BTW am not discriminating against speccy chaps - am 1 myself. Please don't sue!
BA aren't the only company to offer sponsorship - but the only one (I know of) with their own strict eyesight reqts. Keep looking around and give it some time before you part with your hard-earned!
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I'm a BA Trainee (started in early 2000). I know of one person on my course (of 16) and one on an earlier course that failed the 6/24 eyesight requirement at BA's in-house medical (but got their class one) and made it onto the scheme.
So obviously it IS possible to make it as a TEP without 6/24 vision, but I don't know how many people BA rejected that failed that part of the medical.
(By the way, 6/24 is an initial requirement only - my own eyesight was better than 6/24 when I applied, but is now below that).
So obviously it IS possible to make it as a TEP without 6/24 vision, but I don't know how many people BA rejected that failed that part of the medical.
(By the way, 6/24 is an initial requirement only - my own eyesight was better than 6/24 when I applied, but is now below that).
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Official News is that BA have now 'reduced' their eyesight to the new JAA standards. I know this for a fact so the 6/24 rule no longer applies. Stick by the JAA regs on www.srg.caa.co.uk and you should be fine.
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Anyone applied to BA CEP with Class 1 but with eyesight below stated minimas?
Would just like to query whether or not any of you out there have actually applied to BA for the CEP scheme whilst in possession of a Class 1 Med Certificate but with eyesight that does not actually meet the requirements stipulated within the BA literature.
There have been a couple of posts on this topic in the last few weeks/months, none of which garnered much excitement (fairly understandable given the alternative appeal of ripping the piss out of ronconker)
However some of the reply's implied that BA had relaxed their position on eyesight provided that the candidate was in possession of a Class 1. After reading this I wrote to BA to query the position and received a little leaflet on the programme which was not much help but which did re-iterate that BA's medical requirements were in some areas more restrictive than those imposed by the CAA.
Can anyone out there in PPRuNe land actually say that they have applied to BA having been in such a position and if so how did they get on.
If what has been said has any truth in it then given my age I will get 1 crack at the whip.
Hope someone can provide a definitive truth on this.
Cheers
Col Blink!
There have been a couple of posts on this topic in the last few weeks/months, none of which garnered much excitement (fairly understandable given the alternative appeal of ripping the piss out of ronconker)
However some of the reply's implied that BA had relaxed their position on eyesight provided that the candidate was in possession of a Class 1. After reading this I wrote to BA to query the position and received a little leaflet on the programme which was not much help but which did re-iterate that BA's medical requirements were in some areas more restrictive than those imposed by the CAA.
Can anyone out there in PPRuNe land actually say that they have applied to BA having been in such a position and if so how did they get on.
If what has been said has any truth in it then given my age I will get 1 crack at the whip.
Hope someone can provide a definitive truth on this.
Cheers
Col Blink!
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A friend of mine got through all of the essential exams and passed. But was declined due to his eyesight. I can let you know when I find out more, but he also applied for Air Lingus and they accepted him but he decided there would be no point in continuing as he would only get to the end to find out that they would decline him for his eyesight.
Probably no use to you but I thought I would reply.
cessnaman
Probably no use to you but I thought I would reply.
cessnaman