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Sally
You seem to be infatuated with first time pass statistics; the most influential ingredient in achieving a first time pass is you, through the commitment that you are prepared to put in coupled with any natural talent and ability that you may or may not possess.
Ps, I trained at Oxford, passed first time and no I wouldn’t recommend them…!
You seem to be infatuated with first time pass statistics; the most influential ingredient in achieving a first time pass is you, through the commitment that you are prepared to put in coupled with any natural talent and ability that you may or may not possess.
Ps, I trained at Oxford, passed first time and no I wouldn’t recommend them…!
Methinks he still doth protest too much....
Minus 273, I think that the reference was to low time flight instuctors - there is no intrinsic reason why a FAA qualified instructor with JAR/FCL approval should teach to any different standard to a UK qualified FI if both are subject to the same standardisation requirements.
Minus 273, I think that the reference was to low time flight instuctors - there is no intrinsic reason why a FAA qualified instructor with JAR/FCL approval should teach to any different standard to a UK qualified FI if both are subject to the same standardisation requirements.
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Thoroughly Nice Bloke...
I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that the first time pass rates thing is a non-issue, or even if it is not, I'm not going to get the answers I'm seeking which is a shame.
Thanks for everyone who has made the time to respond constructively. I think I'll leave it there.
I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that the first time pass rates thing is a non-issue, or even if it is not, I'm not going to get the answers I'm seeking which is a shame.
Thanks for everyone who has made the time to respond constructively. I think I'll leave it there.
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Sally, I feel for you and all the other wannabees out there.
As an ex employee of OATS, I had the great pleasure in 1999/200 of helping many modular students achieve their dream and getting their rating. There was no secret to the success, just dedicated instructors, customer orientated with ops staff who felt the same way. Sadly, after the takeover by BBA group, it became obvious that investment in training was not a priority. I even asked the question at the first meeting with the directors of BBA, ' how committed is BBA to training ?' The answer was clear..they moved onto another topic. You must be aware that the priority for the company is profit( no harm in that ) and to get the right return for the shareholders. This means Oxford airport, engineering and Signature flight handling get the dosh and training is farmed out to the cheapest method of completion. Unfortunately the ' new' MD will be charged with only one thing..maximum return for minimum investment. I know this because as former director of training he had no answers to the many questions we posed to constantly improve our product. Modular succeeded despite of Oxford, not because. Incidentally the new MD went to BMI when he saw what was in the future but got made redundant from there so hot footed it back to to his den at Oxford. I have no axe to grind just despair at the way both employees and customers are treated as just another drain on resources. To echo many other posters..choose carefully, choose wisely and choose once. There are alternatives to OATS no matter how much b*****t scottish marketing people may give you. Good luck.
PS: My company may be looking for low hours pilots on citations soon. I will keep you posted.
As an ex employee of OATS, I had the great pleasure in 1999/200 of helping many modular students achieve their dream and getting their rating. There was no secret to the success, just dedicated instructors, customer orientated with ops staff who felt the same way. Sadly, after the takeover by BBA group, it became obvious that investment in training was not a priority. I even asked the question at the first meeting with the directors of BBA, ' how committed is BBA to training ?' The answer was clear..they moved onto another topic. You must be aware that the priority for the company is profit( no harm in that ) and to get the right return for the shareholders. This means Oxford airport, engineering and Signature flight handling get the dosh and training is farmed out to the cheapest method of completion. Unfortunately the ' new' MD will be charged with only one thing..maximum return for minimum investment. I know this because as former director of training he had no answers to the many questions we posed to constantly improve our product. Modular succeeded despite of Oxford, not because. Incidentally the new MD went to BMI when he saw what was in the future but got made redundant from there so hot footed it back to to his den at Oxford. I have no axe to grind just despair at the way both employees and customers are treated as just another drain on resources. To echo many other posters..choose carefully, choose wisely and choose once. There are alternatives to OATS no matter how much b*****t scottish marketing people may give you. Good luck.
PS: My company may be looking for low hours pilots on citations soon. I will keep you posted.
