Cross-country touch and go logging
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Cross-country touch and go logging
I'm having some doubt regarding logging a cross country flight with t&g in my logbook - JAR 1.080 says:
Some people say it's perfectly correct to log such flight as one entry, with appropriate number of landings in the column and maybe also a remark that it was XC flight, while on the other hand, it's still multiple flights and they weren't carried from the same airfield. What's the general view on this?
If the holder of a licence carries out a number of flights upon the same day returning on each occasion to the same place of departure and the interval between successive flights does not exceed thirty minutes, such series of flights may be recorded as a single entry.
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returning on each occasion to the same place of departure
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Definitely NOT multiple flights if you're only performing touch and go's inbetween your point of departure and arrival airfield. The key events are start-up/brakes-off to brakes-on/shutdown times, with the number of total landings recorded as such, with relevant comments within the 'Remarks and Endorsements' (or alternative) section of your logbook entry.
Well if you are really technical about it and start looking at definitions; with a touch-and-go you never come to a full stop.
Therefore the flight continues.
If you do a full stop, clear teh runway and taxi back for departure you completed one and started another flight.
So, if a full stop is involved, multiple entries in the logbook.
If tgo's are involved, single entrie in the logbook.
Therefore the flight continues.
If you do a full stop, clear teh runway and taxi back for departure you completed one and started another flight.
So, if a full stop is involved, multiple entries in the logbook.
If tgo's are involved, single entrie in the logbook.
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Well if you are really technical about it and start looking at definitions; with a touch-and-go you never come to a full stop.
Therefore the flight continues.
If you do a full stop, clear teh runway and taxi back for departure you completed one and started another flight.
So, if a full stop is involved, multiple entries in the logbook.
If tgo's are involved, single entrie in the logbook.
Therefore the flight continues.
If you do a full stop, clear teh runway and taxi back for departure you completed one and started another flight.
So, if a full stop is involved, multiple entries in the logbook.
If tgo's are involved, single entrie in the logbook.
T&G - one entry with all landings
Full stop - one entry per flight
The definition of flight time for fixed wing aircraft is "The total time from the moment an aircraft first moves for the purpose of taking off until the moment it finally comes to rest at the end of the flight". If during the course of a flight, the aircraft carries out a touch-and-go or even lands, taxies around and takes off again, this does not represent the end of the flight. Only when the aircraft finally comes to rest is the flight complete.
To an extent, this leaves it open to the PIC to decide what he considers to the the final coming to rest and, therefore, how flight time is divided into log book entries but since, by definition, in a touch-and-go, the aircraft does not come to rest, it cannot be the end of the flight or the associated log book entry. As the OP points out, any number of discrete flights may be combined into a single log book entry provided that they all take place on the same day and consecutive flights are no more than 30 minutes apart.
Of course, if we are being really technical, whatever is in JAR-FCL 1.080 becomes entirely irrelevant in a couple of days time, but then AMC1 FCL.050 says exactly the same thing.
To an extent, this leaves it open to the PIC to decide what he considers to the the final coming to rest and, therefore, how flight time is divided into log book entries but since, by definition, in a touch-and-go, the aircraft does not come to rest, it cannot be the end of the flight or the associated log book entry. As the OP points out, any number of discrete flights may be combined into a single log book entry provided that they all take place on the same day and consecutive flights are no more than 30 minutes apart.
Of course, if we are being really technical, whatever is in JAR-FCL 1.080 becomes entirely irrelevant in a couple of days time, but then AMC1 FCL.050 says exactly the same thing.
