Logging instrument flight hours...
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Logging instrument flight hours...
Can someone tell me whether it is possible to log FNPTII hours as instrument/IFR hours in your log book?? E.g. Training for IR renewal, MCC etc.?
I had a look at LASORS but couldn't find anything useful...
Many thanks in advance.
I had a look at LASORS but couldn't find anything useful...
Many thanks in advance.
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They worth absolutley zero in the grand scale of things apart from for license issue and some ratings.
Employers don't care how many hours you have in the sim they are worthless.
And FNPT hours are worth less than sim hours.
Total time is only hours you have sat in a Aircraft and been a member of crew.
PIC time is the time when you were actually PIC and signed the techlog. PICUS SPIC time also nobody is interested in apart from your NAA for License issue.
Co-pilot can only be logged in a mult crew aircraft or under mulricrew SOP's with permission of the NAA.
Oh and check you haven't logged any hours as PICUS with normal instructors doing club check rides. Thats another way folk try and inflate thier hours which is so obvious its silly and just make you look like a prat.
Employers don't care how many hours you have in the sim they are worthless.
And FNPT hours are worth less than sim hours.
Total time is only hours you have sat in a Aircraft and been a member of crew.
PIC time is the time when you were actually PIC and signed the techlog. PICUS SPIC time also nobody is interested in apart from your NAA for License issue.
Co-pilot can only be logged in a mult crew aircraft or under mulricrew SOP's with permission of the NAA.
Oh and check you haven't logged any hours as PICUS with normal instructors doing club check rides. Thats another way folk try and inflate thier hours which is so obvious its silly and just make you look like a prat.
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I would like to see the legal backing for logging sim hours as IFR!! As far as I can see in EASA legislation it only covers IFR and instrument time:
IFR: is FLIGHT time when operating in accordance with IFR
Instrument: is FLIGHT time with sole reference to instruments.
The only other option is instrument ground time, which ok yes is sim time however it cannot count for any flight time and employers won't take any notice of it!
IFR: is FLIGHT time when operating in accordance with IFR
Instrument: is FLIGHT time with sole reference to instruments.
The only other option is instrument ground time, which ok yes is sim time however it cannot count for any flight time and employers won't take any notice of it!
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Time spent in a flight simulation training device, whether FNPT, FTD or FS, counts as instrument ground time towards the requirements for the issue of certain licences and ratings or towards the refresher training requirements for some aircraft type ratings. It does not count, under any circumstances, towards any total flight time requirement.
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nick14,
I didn't say it counts towards the total time 
BillieBob,
Thank you for you answer! For example, I needed my MCC instrument hours to issue my licence
only log them in the simulator column
BillieBob,
Thank you for you answer! For example, I needed my MCC instrument hours to issue my licence
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You can't use them as IFR hours they can be counted as per the relevent regs for license issue.
But they are never ever instrument time or IFR time in the real world apart from the box ticking exercises of application forms for the CAA.
But they are never ever instrument time or IFR time in the real world apart from the box ticking exercises of application forms for the CAA.
