ATPL (H) theory credits for IR(A)
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ATPL (H) theory credits for IR(A)
Hi.
I passed my ATPL (H) Theory a year ago. Along with Flight performance.(A)
Looking at my finances for the next few years I dont think I am going to be able to afford to take my IR(H) @£55,000.
After looking at the theory requirement I believe I have passes in the right exams to take my IR(A).
one question I have is that if I pass my IR(A) will that secure my IR theory for longer that the 3 years original validity, i.e. 7 years.
Or are the 2 completely seperate ?
Having looked a Lasors I am even more confused than before.
Thanks.
Mike
I passed my ATPL (H) Theory a year ago. Along with Flight performance.(A)
Looking at my finances for the next few years I dont think I am going to be able to afford to take my IR(H) @£55,000.
After looking at the theory requirement I believe I have passes in the right exams to take my IR(A).
one question I have is that if I pass my IR(A) will that secure my IR theory for longer that the 3 years original validity, i.e. 7 years.
Or are the 2 completely seperate ?
Having looked a Lasors I am even more confused than before.
Thanks.
Mike
Ok
Best bet firstly is to call the exams department at the UK CAA 01293 573700, just to double check what I'm saying/pasting below is correct. They're very helpful.
However if you have UK JAR ATPL (H) exams, to obtain UK JAR ATPL (A) exams (I know that's not what you asked, but you can't mix and match the exams like this I don't think, you need them as a 'set', but hear me out) you would need to read the following cut/paste from Lasors
In 2001, there was a delay in the development of the JAR-FCL Central Question Bank, which meant that certain Theoretical Knowledge Examinations for helicopter CPL and ATPL could not be introduced. In response the CAA agreed an interim arrangement so that CPL(H) and ATPL(H) could be obtained using a combination of helicopter and aeroplane examinations. AIC 51/2008 advised that these arrangements would cease on 30th November 2008. However, due to further problems this change could not be implemented and so the interim arrangements remain in place. In preparation for the transition to EASA the interim arrangements will be brought to an end at some point during 2010/2011. This will be advised by means of a new AIC that will be published on the web at NATS | AIS.
A candidate with valid JAR ATPL(H) theory credit obtained under the interim arrangement, who wishes to obtain JAR CPL(A) or ATPL(A) theory credit, will be awarded a credit for those subjects in which the equivalent ATPL(A) examinations were passed - this may particularly be the case for Operational Procedures, Composite CPL(A) or ATPL(A) bridging exam*, and in some cases, Performance.
Important: a candidate who qualifies for one or more exam credits should note that for the purposes of JAR-FCL 1.495, the validity of JAR CPL(A) or ATPL(A) theory credit will be calculated as 36 months from the date of gaining a pass in the JAR ATPL(H) theory examinations, NOT from the date of completing the CPL(A) or ATPL(A) bridging requirements. (I believe this is a long winded way of saying you need to take JAR ATPL (A) exams in PofF and Perf A)
Therefore, once you have JAR ATPL (A) theory credit, and obtain the JAR CPL (A) and IR (A) your JAR ATPL (A) theory will be 'banked' for 7 years FROM the date of EXPIRY of your most recent IR (A).
JAR ATPL (H) 'theory credit' will expire, as such, after 3 years if you don't obtain a JAR CPL (H) and IR (H) as normal. HOWEVER, and this is the key, as your JAR ATPL (A) exams are banked, the above Lasors cut/paste applies in the opposite direction.
In order to satisfy the theoretical knowledge requirements for the JAR-FCL ATPL(H), the holder of a JAR-FCL ATPL(A), or CPL(A) with valid* ATPL(A) theory credit, is required to complete approved bridge instruction for the subjects/topics detailed in Appendix 1 to JAR-FCL 2.050. In addition, a pass in the following ATPL(H) examinations must be obtained, in accordance with JAR-FCL 2.490:- Performance;Operational Procedures; Principles of Flight (H) and the Composite ATPL(H) bridge examination.
I hope it helps.
VJW
Best bet firstly is to call the exams department at the UK CAA 01293 573700, just to double check what I'm saying/pasting below is correct. They're very helpful.
However if you have UK JAR ATPL (H) exams, to obtain UK JAR ATPL (A) exams (I know that's not what you asked, but you can't mix and match the exams like this I don't think, you need them as a 'set', but hear me out) you would need to read the following cut/paste from Lasors
In 2001, there was a delay in the development of the JAR-FCL Central Question Bank, which meant that certain Theoretical Knowledge Examinations for helicopter CPL and ATPL could not be introduced. In response the CAA agreed an interim arrangement so that CPL(H) and ATPL(H) could be obtained using a combination of helicopter and aeroplane examinations. AIC 51/2008 advised that these arrangements would cease on 30th November 2008. However, due to further problems this change could not be implemented and so the interim arrangements remain in place. In preparation for the transition to EASA the interim arrangements will be brought to an end at some point during 2010/2011. This will be advised by means of a new AIC that will be published on the web at NATS | AIS.
A candidate with valid JAR ATPL(H) theory credit obtained under the interim arrangement, who wishes to obtain JAR CPL(A) or ATPL(A) theory credit, will be awarded a credit for those subjects in which the equivalent ATPL(A) examinations were passed - this may particularly be the case for Operational Procedures, Composite CPL(A) or ATPL(A) bridging exam*, and in some cases, Performance.
Important: a candidate who qualifies for one or more exam credits should note that for the purposes of JAR-FCL 1.495, the validity of JAR CPL(A) or ATPL(A) theory credit will be calculated as 36 months from the date of gaining a pass in the JAR ATPL(H) theory examinations, NOT from the date of completing the CPL(A) or ATPL(A) bridging requirements. (I believe this is a long winded way of saying you need to take JAR ATPL (A) exams in PofF and Perf A)
Therefore, once you have JAR ATPL (A) theory credit, and obtain the JAR CPL (A) and IR (A) your JAR ATPL (A) theory will be 'banked' for 7 years FROM the date of EXPIRY of your most recent IR (A).
JAR ATPL (H) 'theory credit' will expire, as such, after 3 years if you don't obtain a JAR CPL (H) and IR (H) as normal. HOWEVER, and this is the key, as your JAR ATPL (A) exams are banked, the above Lasors cut/paste applies in the opposite direction.
In order to satisfy the theoretical knowledge requirements for the JAR-FCL ATPL(H), the holder of a JAR-FCL ATPL(A), or CPL(A) with valid* ATPL(A) theory credit, is required to complete approved bridge instruction for the subjects/topics detailed in Appendix 1 to JAR-FCL 2.050. In addition, a pass in the following ATPL(H) examinations must be obtained, in accordance with JAR-FCL 2.490:- Performance;Operational Procedures; Principles of Flight (H) and the Composite ATPL(H) bridge examination.
I hope it helps.
VJW
