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Old 27th Feb 2012, 04:48
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News on the street is that rmcb was a little optimistic with 3 months and it's all kicking off again!
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 06:37
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Bad times, I just heard that Cabair International Ltd has gone in again!

I send my condolences to all the poor students who have lost money.

I hope that your fortunes turn in the near future.
Thank you for the condolences Chris. At the moment myself and the rest of the students are just trying to work out where we go from here.
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 10:00
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This is really bad for those that stayed there. My brother was lucky enough to leave at the last minute before things went bust. He is finishing off right now at AFT in coventry. Apparently the guys there are getting alot of people from Cabair and have a special transfer program all set up for that.

I really hope it works out for everyone guys!
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 10:24
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jmparis I too feel for you what ever my views about that method of training.

I still to this day remember being at gatwick doing exams when a school went under, there was 15-20 blokes just wandering around in a state of shock.

The caa were quite supportive in a limited way and got them in to explain what would happen to thier training records etc and what thier options were.
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 11:10
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The caa were quite supportive in a limited way
I find this heartening, but mystifying... A dose of prevention would have cured an epidemic in the first place. Why does the regulator not seem to want to apply regulation to this kind of shark?
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 11:19
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Because they are caught between the airlines and the consumers.

Airlines want and need a huge over supply and the training industry to continue while they are in a low recruiting period.

That said it was many years ago I saw this. Alot has happened since then and I suspect the individuals wouldn't be allowed to offer advice these days.
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 12:10
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This is really bad for those that stayed there. My brother was lucky enough to leave at the last minute before things went bust. He is finishing off right now at AFT in coventry. Apparently the guys there are getting alot of people from Cabair and have a special transfer program all set up for that.

I really hope it works out for everyone guys!
@jjordan Would you be able to give me any more details about the transfer program with AFT in Coventry?
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 12:18
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As a ruff estimate how many students is this going to effect.

And if you don't mind telling what was the deal they jigged up to allow you to continue training after the last crash?

I completely understand if you don't want to tell mind.
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 13:05
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As a ruff estimate how many students is this going to effect.

And if you don't mind telling what was the deal they jigged up to allow you to continue training after the last crash?

I completely understand if you don't want to tell mind.
I joined the newly refinanced company so I honestly don't know the total number of students that continued training with Cabair after the last crash.
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 14:40
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And how much are you out of pocket?
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 14:49
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And how much are you out of pocket?
I would rather not comment on any financial aspects. I'm only here to find out about experiences at other flight schools and not to make negative comments about Cabair.
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 15:03
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Get in touch with Alex at Bristol and he will be able to give you informed options.

Unfortunately he has had to deal with this situation before of the fall out of schools going tits up.

And from what I hear he is one of the genuine training providers out there that really does care about the student pilots and will put in time and effort picking up the pieces for very little if any personal gain.
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 15:17
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John,

PM me if you wish and I'll update you on what's happened to us.
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 15:32
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Get in touch with Alex at Bristol and he will be able to give you informed options.

Unfortunately he has had to deal with this situation before of the fall out of schools going tits up.

And from what I hear he is one of the genuine training providers out there that really does care about the student pilots and will put in time and effort picking up the pieces for very little if any personal gain.
@mad_jock Thanks for the advice. Would you be able to give me the contact details for Alex at Bristol?
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 15:43
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Contact | Bristol Ground School
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 15:46
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@Duchess_Driver Thank you
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 16:22
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I would take LM up on his offer as well.
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 18:28
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What offer was that.................?
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 19:05
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PM me if you wish and I'll update you on what's happened to us.
To give the lad some more details.
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Old 27th Feb 2012, 21:08
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Hi all,

Perhaps we could get a few other chaps to help out finding new schools to help those affected by the downfall of Cabair.

This is on the basis that these chaps may retrieve some funds (???) or find another means of funding their future training.

Firstly, before I say any more, anyone reading this should have a look at the beginning of this thread to find out how to protect yourself in the future....i.e. there is allot of advise from other members...please take note of these suggestions.

I can suggest the following link as a good start. This is the document from the CAA with the approved list of training providers.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/srg_lts..._Doc31v105.pdf

I would point out that it is not exactly up to date, in that Cabair is still listed as a current provider, so Cabair can safely be ignored.

So if you want to continue as an integrated student, you only have a few options:

CTC in Bournemouth (Spoke to JB who now works over there, they seem to be fully booked until Autumn, but perhaps to get on the list would be a start) ,

Oxford, - Don't know anyone there, so perhaps someone else could comment?

Flight Training SL - Again don't know anyone there and not heard any reports about them, good or bad....can someone comment?

Oh, almost forgot Atlantic Flight Training - Again don't know anyone there and not heard any reports about them, good or bad....can someone comment?

I don't know the transition from integrated to modular, so If someone know what loop holes need to be met to satisfy the CAA, please could they post them. I am guessing that there may be issues as the integrated chaps may not have a PPL, but have started the ATPL exams?


If these schools don't suit you, then you will need to proceed down the modular route like the rest of us....lol

Lots of Schools to choose from, so I will just put the CAA PDF link and you can have a link for yourself. Same as the link above, just further down the document.

http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/33/srg_lts..._Doc31v105.pdf

Hope that this helps some of the guys looking to finish up. All the best on getting this sorted. I have some idea of the stress and and sadness you are going though, you have my sympathy....
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