Flying for FREE!
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From: Propping up bars in the Lands of D H Lawrence and Bishop Bonner
No, it's not illegal per se ... the operator will insist that the pilot is self-employed and that the fee for his or her services is ...er... nowt. Minimum wage legislation does not apply to the self-employed/freelance.
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From: New Jersey
Flying for free
I have never heard of "flying for free", before. In such a risky job not even a token to say thanks! Tht's touch if you ask me. Charter companies makes a lot of money where there is business. Surely they can afford to pay something in appreciation.
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From: Paradise
But Onthehorizon
What is the point ? Gaining multi engine time gets you now, nowhere. Okay so your total time goes up, sure, but you still need that all important type rating AND hours on type. So all the time your not earning any money, so where do you get the money from to live and buy the next stage in the game??
So you bust yourself working 2 years maybe 3, get 700-1000 hours if your lucky, all for free and not earning money. Back to the job market, and then you meet people working for free still earning no money, on the a320 or 737 for 2 - 3 years, with the same excuse of needing the hours because they cant find work without type rating and time on type. Now I read, and have met captains flying for free to get that all important PIC time on type.
Its my belief that we should be paid. But, those days are pretty much gone and companies are still trying it on expecting free pilots and sadly they are getting it.
So, not good and dont agree, but, working for free is better than paying for time on type. But to be honest I would never waste your life away, just work in an ordinary job, save the money and cut to the chase and goto the 320 or 737 rating then work for free to get experience on type and increase your time.
Truth is no one cares about hours, only type rated and time on type.
ww
What is the point ? Gaining multi engine time gets you now, nowhere. Okay so your total time goes up, sure, but you still need that all important type rating AND hours on type. So all the time your not earning any money, so where do you get the money from to live and buy the next stage in the game??
So you bust yourself working 2 years maybe 3, get 700-1000 hours if your lucky, all for free and not earning money. Back to the job market, and then you meet people working for free still earning no money, on the a320 or 737 for 2 - 3 years, with the same excuse of needing the hours because they cant find work without type rating and time on type. Now I read, and have met captains flying for free to get that all important PIC time on type.
Its my belief that we should be paid. But, those days are pretty much gone and companies are still trying it on expecting free pilots and sadly they are getting it.
So, not good and dont agree, but, working for free is better than paying for time on type. But to be honest I would never waste your life away, just work in an ordinary job, save the money and cut to the chase and goto the 320 or 737 rating then work for free to get experience on type and increase your time.
Truth is no one cares about hours, only type rated and time on type.
ww
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From: Above & Beyond
I have a feeling the OP will not be mentioned on the companies books as an employee, meaning there is no trace of him which means its not illegal to not pay him.
If he has signed a contract of some kind then yes it will be illegal not to pay him a minimal wage.
I would be careful on that!! I would personally tell the company I would work for them at least 2 days a week and the rest I will work in another profession because they are not paying me, and if they want me to work more than that then they will have to start talking money.
If he has signed a contract of some kind then yes it will be illegal not to pay him a minimal wage.
I would be careful on that!! I would personally tell the company I would work for them at least 2 days a week and the rest I will work in another profession because they are not paying me, and if they want me to work more than that then they will have to start talking money.
