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Is Oxford Aviation Academy worth the cost?
To do the integrated ATPL(A) APP F/O Training is Ģ66,000 and I know it's cheaper to go down the Modular Route but does going to Oxford Aviation Academy mean better job prospects?
Call me naive in what I say, but I am still only at Secondary School and I'm just curious for the future.
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To do the integrated ATPL(A) APP F/O Training is Ģ66,000 and I know it's cheaper to go down the Modular Route but does going to Oxford Aviation Academy mean better job prospects?
Call me naive in what I say, but I am still only at Secondary School and I'm just curious for the future.
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I wouldn't worry about it now - you can't train for another 4 years and who knows what the market and FTO's (or their relative costs) will be like at that time.
By all means start saving all your spare cash and concentrate on physics and maths but not much more you can do at this point in time.
By all means start saving all your spare cash and concentrate on physics and maths but not much more you can do at this point in time.
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I was in the same position when I was 14 You shouldnīt worry about it now, just work hard in school and maybe if you have time and money, get a PPL or Gliding license when you get a little older. You canīt know now how the situation will be when itīs time for you to train.
You shouldnīt worry about it now, just work hard in school and maybe if you have time and money, get a PPL or Gliding license when you get a little older. You canīt know now how the situation will be when itīs time for you to train.
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You have to be 14 years of age to log hours in the UK, but you can take lessons at any age provided you can reach the controls.
Re: Oxford/FTE/Cabair/CTC Integrated courses. My training is 5-10yrs away yet (medical permitting, gulp) but I'm avoiding the Integrated schools like the plague. From people I know/ have spoken to places like Stapleford Flight Centre and Multiflight who offer modular training are better value for money. You come out at the end with the same piece of paper and most recruiters will only care how good YOU are. Think about it, an airline's investment in you as a young FO is >Ģ15k for the Type Rating. They want you to succeed and hit the line ASAP so a less able Integrated student shouldn't gain anything over a more able student. Having said that, students may do better with the "better facilities and training" at an Integrated school. Merely speculation. I'm sure if you put the effort in doing the Modular Route then you'd be just as good (and probably better) than many Integrated students.
Isn't there a sticky about this?
Re: Oxford/FTE/Cabair/CTC Integrated courses. My training is 5-10yrs away yet (medical permitting, gulp) but I'm avoiding the Integrated schools like the plague. From people I know/ have spoken to places like Stapleford Flight Centre and Multiflight who offer modular training are better value for money. You come out at the end with the same piece of paper and most recruiters will only care how good YOU are. Think about it, an airline's investment in you as a young FO is >Ģ15k for the Type Rating. They want you to succeed and hit the line ASAP so a less able Integrated student shouldn't gain anything over a more able student. Having said that, students may do better with the "better facilities and training" at an Integrated school. Merely speculation. I'm sure if you put the effort in doing the Modular Route then you'd be just as good (and probably better) than many Integrated students.
Isn't there a sticky about this?
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Golfdriver,
I only used the phrase "better facilities and training" in jest, to try and highlight the overly inflated opinions people have of Integrated Schools.
I, myself, am a modular guy. Though I haven't started training yet, I have decided the modular route is for me, not just because of the financial considerations but because of the flexibility.
Finally, I couldn't agree with your opinions more. Sorry if I managed to hack you off, but I was just trying to provide balance in my post.
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I only used the phrase "better facilities and training" in jest, to try and highlight the overly inflated opinions people have of Integrated Schools.
I, myself, am a modular guy. Though I haven't started training yet, I have decided the modular route is for me, not just because of the financial considerations but because of the flexibility.
Finally, I couldn't agree with your opinions more. Sorry if I managed to hack you off, but I was just trying to provide balance in my post.
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Hey Guys can you all please help me out and suggest me, whether OAA is a good institution to do B737-800 NG Type Rating??
And also does it matter in the Induction Process in an Airline Company if you have not done your type rating course form CAE and done it from OAA???
Please People its urgent I need to take a Decision as soon as possible.
Regards.
And also does it matter in the Induction Process in an Airline Company if you have not done your type rating course form CAE and done it from OAA???
Please People its urgent I need to take a Decision as soon as possible.
Regards.
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Hi everyone!!!
I'm new here, but I have been reading your previous post regarding OAA, and got really confused.... I got through the online application selection for MPL Flybe Cadet Program offered by OAA, currently I am killing every second of my free time with the aptitude tests, getting ready for the assessment process. What caught my attention, was the fact that the modular training, regardless where it have been completed, is equal to the ab-initio course offered for example by OAA..... Is that general opinion about the ab-initio trainings really so misleading?
Would really appreciate any answer, as I got really confused..... Thanks a million.
I'm new here, but I have been reading your previous post regarding OAA, and got really confused.... I got through the online application selection for MPL Flybe Cadet Program offered by OAA, currently I am killing every second of my free time with the aptitude tests, getting ready for the assessment process. What caught my attention, was the fact that the modular training, regardless where it have been completed, is equal to the ab-initio course offered for example by OAA..... Is that general opinion about the ab-initio trainings really so misleading?
Would really appreciate any answer, as I got really confused..... Thanks a million.
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Golfdriver - you're talking out of your arse. I did integrated. At Oxford.
I never called anyone Sir, nor was I required or asked to. Secondly, whilst their are a lot of faults with OAA, they do take standardisation seriously and make effort to make sure that people are being trained the same way.
I never called anyone Sir, nor was I required or asked to. Secondly, whilst their are a lot of faults with OAA, they do take standardisation seriously and make effort to make sure that people are being trained the same way.
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The only difference I can see is that you get to walk around in a uniform and have to address your Instructor as "sir" - so if you think the price difference is worth that - well words fail me!
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I have also spoken to an ex-OAT instructor (who was an old fart) who voiced his concern's about standards and quality.
Apparently the output from the US can swing either way with some very strange ideas on airmanship getting mixed into the equation.
I was asking him about the lack of DME arc training and the 10 knt xwind limits. When it came up.
He was in full agreement though with the issue of alot of grads have issues with coming across as a cocky wee ****es flying the line. And even admitted himself that he replied to his CP "no comment" when the subject of doing a deal with Oxford for preferential CV screening came up.
Apparently the output from the US can swing either way with some very strange ideas on airmanship getting mixed into the equation.
I was asking him about the lack of DME arc training and the 10 knt xwind limits. When it came up.
He was in full agreement though with the issue of alot of grads have issues with coming across as a cocky wee ****es flying the line. And even admitted himself that he replied to his CP "no comment" when the subject of doing a deal with Oxford for preferential CV screening came up.
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Two points.
Firstly - when I worked there the flying instructors had to be called either "sir" or Mr. then their sirname. I don't know what the ground instructors were called.
Secondly - Before you went to Sainsburys after groundschool why didn't you get changed out of the uniform and back to "civvies"?
Firstly - when I worked there the flying instructors had to be called either "sir" or Mr. then their sirname. I don't know what the ground instructors were called.
Secondly - Before you went to Sainsburys after groundschool why didn't you get changed out of the uniform and back to "civvies"?
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err because they were cocky wee ****es perhaps with crap handeling skills who talked a better shag than they could fly an approach?
If you could score in the super market for looking like a security guard it was money well spent on a Intergrated course.
The fact they can't land in more than 10 knots x-wind or fly a DME arc is imaterial. o and of course they are cocky wee ****es who are pain in the arse to line train.
If you could score in the super market for looking like a security guard it was money well spent on a Intergrated course.
The fact they can't land in more than 10 knots x-wind or fly a DME arc is imaterial. o and of course they are cocky wee ****es who are pain in the arse to line train.
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As per, it is a broad brush being somewhat unfairly applied here methinks. I had no problems during my line training thanks.
Certainly none of this sir bollocks during my ME training (Aug 08-Dec 08)
And don't forget that the 10kt limit and DME arcing is not through lack of ability but policy applied from above by OAA
Can't argue with the security guard bit mind
Certainly none of this sir bollocks during my ME training (Aug 08-Dec 08)
And don't forget that the 10kt limit and DME arcing is not through lack of ability but policy applied from above by OAA
Can't argue with the security guard bit mind
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[QUOTE][http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/4...ed.html/QUOTE]
These "cocky wee ****es" learnt something on the way!
These "cocky wee ****es" learnt something on the way!
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The above does not seem to work, anyway you can find the post if your interested.
As an aside I dont remember ever being taught a DME arc approach during my instrument training. That was RAF and Stapleford. Soon learnt it when I had to fly to Belfast and Edinburgh in a 1-11.
As an aside I dont remember ever being taught a DME arc approach during my instrument training. That was RAF and Stapleford. Soon learnt it when I had to fly to Belfast and Edinburgh in a 1-11.
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This one does.[QUOTEThe handling pilot started life in BA with exactly 200 hours, having graduated from from Oxford Air Training School.
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hi guys, im set to go to oxford for modular training and am wondering if there is anyone who has just come back from or also going to oxford who knows of cheap accommodation or is looking for someone to rent with. Many thanks
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Not wort the cost!! I was in the same situation as you, only a year or two ago. I know that at your age you wonīt listen to anyone. I thought all the guys here were nuts and that I was the king of the world. But believe me how much Iīve learned from the guys at pprune in only a year. Iīve just turned 18 and I am begining to understand more and more about the economical climate and how much money we actually are prepared to borrow. You should relax for now and focus on your grades. Maybe if you have time and money, get a PPL or Gliding. When you finish school you should consider your options, modular is much cheaper, it gives you more ability to control time and things like that. Integrated isnīt in anyway better and Oxford students doesnīt get hired at all, at this time. Oxford is only a good name that are world champions on promoting themselves. Itīs a load of crap! Donīt go integrated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I can only hope that you will listen to me since I am very young and I was 10 times worse than you.
People here have years of experience and they know what they are talking about! So do like me and grabb all advice you can get from them, and good luck
People here have years of experience and they know what they are talking about! So do like me and grabb all advice you can get from them, and good luck