Ripanrocks J1 - F1 visa questions
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J-1 V!SA : Any Latest Information ?
I have emailed several flight schools having the authority to issue/sponsor J-1 Visa.
But I have reached replies from only 1 flight school i.e Ari Ben Aviator
All the replies showcases vague images whether the J-1 Visa is about to get terminated by Dec 2009 or not.
I would like to ask you guys that is J-1 Visa services surely gonna get terminated at the end of this year ?
If I apply for it now, then will I get it within 35-40 days(before its termination date) ?
Can I get J-1 from any other agencies or companies who might sponsor me other than my flight school ?
After the termination of the J-1 Visa, what will happen after the period of 24 months, as its period expires, do we have to shift on to F-1 or any other visa ?
Will J-1 Waiver be applicable ?
Please if you have any crucial / latest information about it, please share !!!!
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But I have reached replies from only 1 flight school i.e Ari Ben Aviator
All the replies showcases vague images whether the J-1 Visa is about to get terminated by Dec 2009 or not.
I would like to ask you guys that is J-1 Visa services surely gonna get terminated at the end of this year ?
If I apply for it now, then will I get it within 35-40 days(before its termination date) ?
Can I get J-1 from any other agencies or companies who might sponsor me other than my flight school ?
After the termination of the J-1 Visa, what will happen after the period of 24 months, as its period expires, do we have to shift on to F-1 or any other visa ?
Will J-1 Waiver be applicable ?
Please if you have any crucial / latest information about it, please share !!!!
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@Halfwayback : This is NO Repeat Question & PLZ DON'T BAN ME THIS TIME
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See another current thread: http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/395...g-replace.html
If you have finished training at one school and they do not have any vacancy for you, you can transfer to another establishment within the 24 months to build your hours, provided the proper paperwork is done with the US immigration authorities.
No, you don't have to, but if you wished to continue in the US, you have to find out then whether you fit into any of the other visa categories.
Can I get J-1 from any other agencies or companies who might sponsor me other than my flight school ?
as its period expires, do we have to shift on to F-1 or any other visa ?
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I have checked that thread already, but there's no specific info given about whether its expiring or not.....
I would like to ask that the flight school is going to charge me $3000 for the whole process, this is what they said in their email :
I have emailed them several times after that but they didnt replied....
So, can I make the 130$ payment now for the TSA & visa etc stuff & later on pay the 3000$ just before joining the flight school for enrollment (Joining Date : June'10) ?
So, shall I apply for the J-1 Visa now ?
I would like to ask that the flight school is going to charge me $3000 for the whole process, this is what they said in their email :
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When you are registering with the TSA you will need to list in their
> application which of the these three courses you will be doing here at the
> Aviator. Any other courses you do not need to register with the FAA.
>
> Course 01 for the Private Pilot Single Engine / Aircraft Cessna 172. To
> register you will need to pay $ 130.00
> Course 02 for the Multi Engine Rating / Aircraft Beechcraft BE-76. To
> register you will need to pay $ 130.00
> Course 03 for the Instrument Rating / Aircraft Beechcraft BE-76. To
> register you will need to pay $ 130.00
>
> You will be in category 03. If you are coming to build time you do not need
> to register with the TSA, however you will need to register with the FAA.
> If you are coming in to do ratings and you already hold a Foreign Pilot
> Certificate you will need to start the Foreign License Verification with the
> FAA before you come to the school. We have both of their links in our
> website www.flyaviator.com under International Students. If you have any
> problems please call us anytime and ask for Mike Cohen.
>
> When you are ready to enroll please fill out the application of enrollment
> and Visa form and fax both forms back to us. Also you will need to make a $
> 3000.00 non-refundable deposit in our Pay Pal Account, or we have a link
> for this in our website under the deposit online button. Upon your arrival
> the deposit will be applied to your flight training account. If you are
> applying for the J-1 Visa program refer to our website for further
> information.
So, can I make the 130$ payment now for the TSA & visa etc stuff & later on pay the 3000$ just before joining the flight school for enrollment (Joining Date : June'10) ?
So, shall I apply for the J-1 Visa now ?
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ripanrocks
some schools charge 3000 non refundable fee... like ariben... but i think if you check with PEA... they will take 3000 for deposit to issue you a visa...
and i think lately 3 schools from the 7 flight schools providing J1 ... now they got accepted for the F1.
so watch the news... u will hear about them soon ...maybe first of the year
some schools charge 3000 non refundable fee... like ariben... but i think if you check with PEA... they will take 3000 for deposit to issue you a visa...
and i think lately 3 schools from the 7 flight schools providing J1 ... now they got accepted for the F1.
so watch the news... u will hear about them soon ...maybe first of the year
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Presently, I can't get any info's from Ari Ben Aviator, cause their both the websites are down.
I have emailed them & they said J-1 would be replaced by F-1 starting in 30 days, but not sure.
Bristow Academy finally replied & they said J-1 would be replaced by new visa, but they dont have the details from the govt.
But, even if the got accepted for F-1 will that help me do any better ?
In "old" F-1 Visa, I can work 20 hours "on-campus" only per week.
If I want to do flight instruction & also do some sort of college study in BBA,BcpE,others at the same time, then J-1 was just about the perfect solution.
But F-1 is......
Dunno, if what's the "new" F-1 visa all about....
BTW,if I apply for J-1 will I get it cause I still have 46 days remaining....
I have emailed them & they said J-1 would be replaced by F-1 starting in 30 days, but not sure.
Bristow Academy finally replied & they said J-1 would be replaced by new visa, but they dont have the details from the govt.
But, even if the got accepted for F-1 will that help me do any better ?
In "old" F-1 Visa, I can work 20 hours "on-campus" only per week.
If I want to do flight instruction & also do some sort of college study in BBA,BcpE,others at the same time, then J-1 was just about the perfect solution.
But F-1 is......
Dunno, if what's the "new" F-1 visa all about....
BTW,if I apply for J-1 will I get it cause I still have 46 days remaining....
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Ripanrocks J1 - F1 visa questions
I have recently received an email from my flight school confirming that the J-1 Visa have already been stopped in USA .
My only viable option is to obtain a F-1 Visa. This is email they sent me yesterday :
I would like to ask people who have already got their F-1 Visa & might have worked on as Flight Instructors after their training.
I would also like to ask that can I do flight instruction & also take college training from a recognized college in Computer Engineering,etc at the same time ?
And yes, how can I change my F-1 status to another work permit visa for the USA & also study at the same time ?
My only viable option is to obtain a F-1 Visa. This is email they sent me yesterday :
Hello Ripan,
The option for Visas would be an F1. This will allow you once you get all
your ratings in the Pro course to work as an instructor for for 1 yr only.
There are no more J1 Visas, that is stopped as of December.
When you are ready to enroll please fill out the application of enrollment
and Visa form. Please make sure your Visa form has your has your full
complete name on the application. Also you will need to make a $3000.00
deposit in our Pay Pal Account .The deposit will secure your enrollment
date. We have a link for this in our website http://www.flyaviator.com,
under the deposit online button. We need 2 weeks notice before your arrival.
If you are flying in please go to Orlando International Airport or Palm
Beach international Airport. We will pick you up at the baggage claim for
that flight. Typically, the school is open Monday through Friday so please
try to schedule arrivals within that time frame. Need any other information
please refer to our web site or just give us a call any time. Any changes to
Visas that have already been issued will be charged a $200.00 administration
fee.
Information about TSA Registration
1. Pre-Registration with the TSA
a. Log on to the TSA web site at
http://www.flightschoolcandidates.gov
b. Scroll down and select new account
c. Provide all information requested for the pre-registration.
Once completed you should receive an email from the TSA including your
UserID and a temporary Password.
2. Application for training with a training provider in the US
a. Log on to the TSA web site at
http://www.flightschoolcandidates.gov
b. Insert your UserID and temporary Password
c. The system will help you to create your own password (easier to
remember for future access)
d. Your personal control panel will then appear
e. Proceed to the personal information folder on the upper left
window and click on it.
f. The system will take you through a 9-step process for your
application. Be ready to provide information such as:
* Personal Information (i.e. First, Middle, Last Name, Date of
Birth, Place of Birth, Citizenship...)
* Passport Information (Passport number, Visa Number, I-20 or
SEVIS number if available)
* Pilot certificate information (if available)
* You will need to register for these individual ratings with
the TSA In doing our Pro Course or Individual Courses 01 for the private
pilot single engine, Aircraft Cessna 172. 02 for the multi engine rating,
Aircraft Beechcraft Duchess BE-76 and 03 for the Instrument rating, Aircraft
Beechcraft Duchess BE-76. You will be in Category 3.
Remark: You will have to provide copies of Passport and Pilot
certificate through fax or scan to the TSA (Contact info will be provided by
the system)
* Residency and Employment information for the past 5 years
* Training provider information (Select Ari Ben Aviator, Inc.)
* Course Information and duration of training
g. Once completed return to your TSA home page and scroll down to
the bottom portion of the page. You will see a table showing the current
status of your application.
h. Select the icon corresponding to the review of your application.
THe system will check on the validity of your application and will guide
through the corrections to be made if there is any errors.
i. Once corrected you can click on the icon corresponding to the
submission of your application. The system will submit your application to
us. once we (the training provider) validate your application, you will be
notified through e-mail by the TSA.
j. Log-on to the TSA website
(http://www.flightschoolcandidates.gov) and scroll down to check on the
status table. You should see that your application has been validated by us
(another icon), and then click onto the dollar sign. This will lead to a
secure connection for the payment of the required $130.00 processing fee
(you can use your credit card).
k. You shall receive an email confirming your payment.
l. The TSA will then give you the necessary information for the
collection of your fingerprints.
m. The TSA will then review your application (it may take 30 to 45
days) and will notify you of their final decision by email or regular mail.
n. Once accepted you may start your flight training with the
training provider (us)
Angela
NOTE: Flight fees are estimated for planning purposes only. FAA
requirements, fuel surcharges, and other uncontrollable factors may result
in adjustments to these fees prior to or during the course of the academic
year
The option for Visas would be an F1. This will allow you once you get all
your ratings in the Pro course to work as an instructor for for 1 yr only.
There are no more J1 Visas, that is stopped as of December.
When you are ready to enroll please fill out the application of enrollment
and Visa form. Please make sure your Visa form has your has your full
complete name on the application. Also you will need to make a $3000.00
deposit in our Pay Pal Account .The deposit will secure your enrollment
date. We have a link for this in our website http://www.flyaviator.com,
under the deposit online button. We need 2 weeks notice before your arrival.
If you are flying in please go to Orlando International Airport or Palm
Beach international Airport. We will pick you up at the baggage claim for
that flight. Typically, the school is open Monday through Friday so please
try to schedule arrivals within that time frame. Need any other information
please refer to our web site or just give us a call any time. Any changes to
Visas that have already been issued will be charged a $200.00 administration
fee.
Information about TSA Registration
1. Pre-Registration with the TSA
a. Log on to the TSA web site at
http://www.flightschoolcandidates.gov
b. Scroll down and select new account
c. Provide all information requested for the pre-registration.
Once completed you should receive an email from the TSA including your
UserID and a temporary Password.
2. Application for training with a training provider in the US
a. Log on to the TSA web site at
http://www.flightschoolcandidates.gov
b. Insert your UserID and temporary Password
c. The system will help you to create your own password (easier to
remember for future access)
d. Your personal control panel will then appear
e. Proceed to the personal information folder on the upper left
window and click on it.
f. The system will take you through a 9-step process for your
application. Be ready to provide information such as:
* Personal Information (i.e. First, Middle, Last Name, Date of
Birth, Place of Birth, Citizenship...)
* Passport Information (Passport number, Visa Number, I-20 or
SEVIS number if available)
* Pilot certificate information (if available)
* You will need to register for these individual ratings with
the TSA In doing our Pro Course or Individual Courses 01 for the private
pilot single engine, Aircraft Cessna 172. 02 for the multi engine rating,
Aircraft Beechcraft Duchess BE-76 and 03 for the Instrument rating, Aircraft
Beechcraft Duchess BE-76. You will be in Category 3.
Remark: You will have to provide copies of Passport and Pilot
certificate through fax or scan to the TSA (Contact info will be provided by
the system)
* Residency and Employment information for the past 5 years
* Training provider information (Select Ari Ben Aviator, Inc.)
* Course Information and duration of training
g. Once completed return to your TSA home page and scroll down to
the bottom portion of the page. You will see a table showing the current
status of your application.
h. Select the icon corresponding to the review of your application.
THe system will check on the validity of your application and will guide
through the corrections to be made if there is any errors.
i. Once corrected you can click on the icon corresponding to the
submission of your application. The system will submit your application to
us. once we (the training provider) validate your application, you will be
notified through e-mail by the TSA.
j. Log-on to the TSA website
(http://www.flightschoolcandidates.gov) and scroll down to check on the
status table. You should see that your application has been validated by us
(another icon), and then click onto the dollar sign. This will lead to a
secure connection for the payment of the required $130.00 processing fee
(you can use your credit card).
k. You shall receive an email confirming your payment.
l. The TSA will then give you the necessary information for the
collection of your fingerprints.
m. The TSA will then review your application (it may take 30 to 45
days) and will notify you of their final decision by email or regular mail.
n. Once accepted you may start your flight training with the
training provider (us)
Angela
NOTE: Flight fees are estimated for planning purposes only. FAA
requirements, fuel surcharges, and other uncontrollable factors may result
in adjustments to these fees prior to or during the course of the academic
year
I would also like to ask that can I do flight instruction & also take college training from a recognized college in Computer Engineering,etc at the same time ?
And yes, how can I change my F-1 status to another work permit visa for the USA & also study at the same time ?
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Ripan, you have so many Visa questions, that I suggest you contact the US Embassy in your country and ask them; they are, after all, supposed to be the experts.
Cheers
Whirls
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I have talked with a few Agents & they have all said only 1 thing -
"Everything depends on your flight school about their allowance about work,etc" & hence I'm ask this questions to those who might have gone through this before...
"Everything depends on your flight school about their allowance about work,etc" & hence I'm ask this questions to those who might have gone through this before...
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@ripanrocks:
Just an answer regarding your 3000USD question. At AriBen your 3000USD will be applied into your account after you start your training. So the money is not lost.
Why they charge you 3000USD is most likely because they have only a limited number of F-1 Visas to give out. They want to make sure that you really start your training with them!
Otherwise a lot of people would just pay the TSA fee...apply for the visa but never use it. That means no business for the school but a lot of paper work.
As it seems to me right now...every J-1 school will be offered to have the opportunity to use F-1 visa as an alternative.
You can apply for a J-1 Visa until the end of the year but you must start training latest in June 2010.
According to Ari-Ben I think they have just decided not to give out J-1s anymore and replace it with the F-1 already in December
Just an answer regarding your 3000USD question. At AriBen your 3000USD will be applied into your account after you start your training. So the money is not lost.
Why they charge you 3000USD is most likely because they have only a limited number of F-1 Visas to give out. They want to make sure that you really start your training with them!
Otherwise a lot of people would just pay the TSA fee...apply for the visa but never use it. That means no business for the school but a lot of paper work.
As it seems to me right now...every J-1 school will be offered to have the opportunity to use F-1 visa as an alternative.
You can apply for a J-1 Visa until the end of the year but you must start training latest in June 2010.
According to Ari-Ben I think they have just decided not to give out J-1s anymore and replace it with the F-1 already in December
