ATPL writtens - Do you HAVE to do an approved course?
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ATPL writtens - Do you HAVE to do an approved course?
Stupid question maybe. The question came up and I don't know. Do you have to enrol in an approved ground school course and pay the full amount? Or can you simply buy the books or CDs yourself, join a question bank and attend the two week crammer course when needed. Thus saving money.
The individual concerned had done national ATPL exams years ago, got an Instrument rating but let it expire so has to redo the writtens in order to renew it. This time under JAR or EASA or whatever it is now.
The guy already holds an JAA CPL issued on the basis of his previous national CPL and had taken and passed the equivalent exams previously. In fact he also did the CPL exams before that. So this would be his third time doing the writtens. And no I don't know what he was thinking!
Does anyone know if an exemption would be granted from having to do the approved course because frankly he should pretty much know it by now after passing two sets of exams previously?
The individual concerned had done national ATPL exams years ago, got an Instrument rating but let it expire so has to redo the writtens in order to renew it. This time under JAR or EASA or whatever it is now.
The guy already holds an JAA CPL issued on the basis of his previous national CPL and had taken and passed the equivalent exams previously. In fact he also did the CPL exams before that. So this would be his third time doing the writtens. And no I don't know what he was thinking!
Does anyone know if an exemption would be granted from having to do the approved course because frankly he should pretty much know it by now after passing two sets of exams previously?
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Section J of JAR FCL 1.485 applies I believe but it really is an individual circumstances kind of thing - of which it is THEIR responsibility to ensure they comply with the regulations - not yours or anyone else.
An applicant shall be recommended for an examination by the approved FTO responsible for applicant’s training when the applicant has completed the appropriate elements of the course of theoretical knowledge
instruction to a satisfactorily standard. An applicant who has failed to complete the examination within the limits imposed by JARFCL 1.490 will in addition be required to produce evidence from an approved Training Organisation of further training.
instruction to a satisfactorily standard. An applicant who has failed to complete the examination within the limits imposed by JARFCL 1.490 will in addition be required to produce evidence from an approved Training Organisation of further training.
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Thanks for that. That paragraph does seem ambiguous enough. Having had a look at the Bristol GS website. They do seem to allow for pilots with an exemption in their price list. Which means it does happen.
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Yes, it CAN happen but it depends on the pilot's previous experience. You/he/she needs to contact your/his/hers local Aviation Authority and determine from them whether they are exempt. As BigGrecian says, it's an individual thing.
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