Age of 39. Is this too old?
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Age of 39. Is this too old?
Hi,
I have at last started my PPL after years of deliberating! It turns out to be the best thing I have ever undertaken in my life and 'why the hell didn't I do it years ago'!
Anyway, I would be interested in any opinion as to whether at the age of 39 you would consider it too late to contemplate continuing on the modular path to my CPL / ATPL in order to possibly stand a chance of a job as a commercial pilot.
Any opinion welcomed!
Great forum by the way!
John
I have at last started my PPL after years of deliberating! It turns out to be the best thing I have ever undertaken in my life and 'why the hell didn't I do it years ago'!
Anyway, I would be interested in any opinion as to whether at the age of 39 you would consider it too late to contemplate continuing on the modular path to my CPL / ATPL in order to possibly stand a chance of a job as a commercial pilot.
Any opinion welcomed!
Great forum by the way!
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Hi John
If you don't do it now, you may always wish that you had tried. I was 39 when I started and I am currently in Arizona flying every day, it's pretty good!
Bad timing Job wise but I am having a ball!
Back to my maps!
If you don't do it now, you may always wish that you had tried. I was 39 when I started and I am currently in Arizona flying every day, it's pretty good!
Bad timing Job wise but I am having a ball!
Back to my maps!
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Cheers
Cheers for your replies.
I just need to get my head down and do it anyway! Here's to no money and hard work...but loads of fun! And an understanding wife!
I just need to get my head down and do it anyway! Here's to no money and hard work...but loads of fun! And an understanding wife!
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I'm turning 38 in two month and started my PPL in November last year. Now I've got two of eight CPL exams down --- not too late, I'd guess.
One of our insturctors is 49 and started his career four years ago. He's now going for ATPL...
One of our insturctors is 49 and started his career four years ago. He's now going for ATPL...
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it's no too old to be poor, or loose all your cash and be divorced!.
you are a customer and you license is good as long you maintain your medical, right?
but if you consider getting a job, and most companies ask for 1500-2000 hours plus type rating, and with few jobs around, it can take years to get a job. When you reach 50, with 2000hours, you may not been employed.
this is why it s good to start training at 20yo and build time for 10-20 years.
Training is nice at 40yo, but after training, it will start to hurt! you will come back to earth and discover you are not alone to chase for a flying job.
At least you have a back up I guess!
good luck!
you are a customer and you license is good as long you maintain your medical, right?
but if you consider getting a job, and most companies ask for 1500-2000 hours plus type rating, and with few jobs around, it can take years to get a job. When you reach 50, with 2000hours, you may not been employed.
this is why it s good to start training at 20yo and build time for 10-20 years.
Training is nice at 40yo, but after training, it will start to hurt! you will come back to earth and discover you are not alone to chase for a flying job.
At least you have a back up I guess!
good luck!
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I think the answer to your question lies in what you want to do with your shiny new commercial license?
If you want to fly for an air charter/ taxi, ambulance, turboprop operator or instructor then I would say go for it and enjoy yourself.
If you have aspirations of left seating a long haul jet I'd think very hard and carefully about the likelihood of reaching that goal, honestly I believe it to be very slim...
But don't get in that rocking chair wishing you had gone for it, no point being the richest man in the graveyard
If you want to fly for an air charter/ taxi, ambulance, turboprop operator or instructor then I would say go for it and enjoy yourself.
If you have aspirations of left seating a long haul jet I'd think very hard and carefully about the likelihood of reaching that goal, honestly I believe it to be very slim...
But don't get in that rocking chair wishing you had gone for it, no point being the richest man in the graveyard
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Nicely put profot!
Luckily I have a professional job already that i can always rely on if need be. I just fancy a total change! I realise the left-hand seat in an airliner is probably setting my ambition too high (especially with the state of the economy and job market etc) but I'll enjoy flying in whatever capacity!
Here's to change!
Luckily I have a professional job already that i can always rely on if need be. I just fancy a total change! I realise the left-hand seat in an airliner is probably setting my ambition too high (especially with the state of the economy and job market etc) but I'll enjoy flying in whatever capacity!
Here's to change!
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Your age and life experience will be an advantage to you with most UK turbo-prop operators, its fantastic fun flying but with limited terms and conditions and very poor pay at low-houred FO level.
A command is a possibility too, when times are good maybe within 3 years of joining...providing some level of recruitment/expansion is taking place to create some movement...
I would agree with the above, especially as things may pan out in the next few years, maybe 'big company jet' job is a little out of reach - only because airline economics will dictate you'll be up against a 19 year old who'll be doing it for nothing or someone type rated with +2500 hours and not a training risk.
Good luck
A command is a possibility too, when times are good maybe within 3 years of joining...providing some level of recruitment/expansion is taking place to create some movement...
I would agree with the above, especially as things may pan out in the next few years, maybe 'big company jet' job is a little out of reach - only because airline economics will dictate you'll be up against a 19 year old who'll be doing it for nothing or someone type rated with +2500 hours and not a training risk.
Good luck
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Your age and life experience will benefit any operator. Just remember to go in with the right attitude, and learn to work well with those from all and every background - from those with 250 hours at age 19 to ex-military chaps with diverse flying experience.
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Age is all the mind!
It is my mad plan to do my CPL ME/IR on retirement from the police aged 51 (health permitting - touch wood). I know I'd be too old for any jet job, but if I could get a RH seat in a TP or instruct that'll do me nicely as money would not be an issue as I'd have my pension.
It is my mad plan to do my CPL ME/IR on retirement from the police aged 51 (health permitting - touch wood). I know I'd be too old for any jet job, but if I could get a RH seat in a TP or instruct that'll do me nicely as money would not be an issue as I'd have my pension.
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I jacked in a 15 year career in shipping and got my first airline job aged 36, flying a TP for a large regional carrier. One of my colleagues used to be a police officer for 30 years before moving.
It's certainly possible.
It's certainly possible.
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Go for it !!!
I was 41 when I finally got my CPL/IR - froz ATPL.
Admittedly getting that 1st flying job was a total bitch - hundreds of CVs, phone calls, etc and got nowhere. Eventually did an FI rating and worked as a part time instructor for almost 2 years.
BUT - it paid off in the end - Now I have the LH seat in a shiny new bizjet - the job I always wanted !
So, bite the bullet, pay the huge fees and costs and get flying...
I was 41 when I finally got my CPL/IR - froz ATPL.
Admittedly getting that 1st flying job was a total bitch - hundreds of CVs, phone calls, etc and got nowhere. Eventually did an FI rating and worked as a part time instructor for almost 2 years.
BUT - it paid off in the end - Now I have the LH seat in a shiny new bizjet - the job I always wanted !
So, bite the bullet, pay the huge fees and costs and get flying...
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Hi guys,
It's good to know, there are other wannabees out there with similar age and with significant job experience in "civil" sector. I am also planning to reach the sky.
Concerning economical issues, I think this time could be an advantage, since when upturn will come, we will have the knowledge to get into flying biz.
Good luck mates!
It's good to know, there are other wannabees out there with similar age and with significant job experience in "civil" sector. I am also planning to reach the sky.
Concerning economical issues, I think this time could be an advantage, since when upturn will come, we will have the knowledge to get into flying biz.
Good luck mates!
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Chaps,
I took the plunge nearly three years ago, aged 44, after 25 years working in the banking industry. I've now got my fATPL and whilst I'm not working for a carrier (at least yet...), I'm flying every day, building hours, getting paid a modest salary and, more to the point, enjoying every chuffing minute of it
It's never too late provided you know what you're letting yourself in for (i.e. in terms of what you need to do to get there), you get a slice of luck along the way, you're prepared to network like crazy and you're realistic about who you may end up working for at the end of it. This industry is notoriously cyclical, and whilst it's looking pretty bleak at the moment, the likelihood is things will start to improve in the next 12-18 months, so you may be starting out at a good time.
Good luck
HW
I took the plunge nearly three years ago, aged 44, after 25 years working in the banking industry. I've now got my fATPL and whilst I'm not working for a carrier (at least yet...), I'm flying every day, building hours, getting paid a modest salary and, more to the point, enjoying every chuffing minute of it
It's never too late provided you know what you're letting yourself in for (i.e. in terms of what you need to do to get there), you get a slice of luck along the way, you're prepared to network like crazy and you're realistic about who you may end up working for at the end of it. This industry is notoriously cyclical, and whilst it's looking pretty bleak at the moment, the likelihood is things will start to improve in the next 12-18 months, so you may be starting out at a good time.
Good luck
HW