Logging Hours
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From: Seychelles
Nope I'm JAA, only one in the company for the domestic sector with a JAA actually. Everyone else does their ATP's in America but eventually I will have to do mine either in UK or or they get an examiner to come down to Sey and do one here (if im rated on something heavier than a Twotter by that time). I know the taxi time fiddling is "wrong" but it always adds up to the captains times, plus the chief captain and flight ops manager has all the PDFS forms to back up the times. So I'm hoping I would be ok if the CAA wanted to check with the company to see if my times are legit. We'll see what happens later on down the line!!! Can't see it being an issue though. Anway sorry to steer this thread down a different direction!!! 
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As the FO if your log book replicates the times submitted by your Captain in thier voyage report and the CAA or FAA takes exception to the companys practise. They will have bigger fish to fry than spanking a FO's bum for thier log book.
To be honest as long as you don't apply for your ATPL bang on the min hours or very near it they don't seem to look at your log books to closely. I applied with at least 10% over all requirments and got the ATPL by nearly return post.
To be honest as long as you don't apply for your ATPL bang on the min hours or very near it they don't seem to look at your log books to closely. I applied with at least 10% over all requirments and got the ATPL by nearly return post.
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From: uk
Mad Jock says:
Not they would not worry about the colour of the tires, just the spelling
Right lets start another JAA, FAA debate. If I say tyres are usually black no doudt the FAA guys will say they are white and white tyres are so much better than JAA black ones.
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Don't be conned into believing you can. There is a load of bollox's out there about logging check rides as PICUS
Unfortunatley you can't. Why can't the CAA put something into Lasor's about this. Maybe they just like sending applications back.
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From: UK, mainly
I have always logged pre hire checkouts as PICUS, as instructed by the instructors.
Successful flight tests as PICUS.
Is this wrong??
Successful flight tests as PICUS.
Is this wrong??
In JAR land:
A successful flight test should be logged as P1S. A partial pass is logged as P/UT (you have not satisfied the requirements to command the flight), with the successful retest as P1S.
Any other training flight (training for a licence, rating, mandatory differences training, the biennial flight with an instructor, or a familiarisation checkout required by schools/clubs to hire aircraft) is P/UT.
Ultimately, who's signed for the aircraft and is responsible to the owner if it goes wrong? If it's you then you're P1. If it's an instructor then he's P1. If it's an examiner then it depends how it goes
