Are most new pilots from integraded courses???
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Having done my groundschool at OAA (and wished i hadn't), clanger is absolutely right that not ALL integrated students are rich chinless wonders spending daddy's money... but quite a lot ARE! to be honest the same to a lesser extent can be said for modulars as well.
My best friend has just been made redundant and he isn't getting a look in anywhere right now. He was integrated and now has 1000 hours twin jet time and can't get an interview.
I think the "daddy's money" comments are cheap shots, but to be honest i think it's unlikely that 18 year old Afraz has managed to save up 70k+ for an integrated course doing his paper round!
I personally have no problem with anyone doing whatever they like, what i do have a problem with is someone spamming up the forum asking the same question over and over again and being an irritating fart particularly when masquerading a statement as a question.
like this:
"Surely integrated students will get preferential treatment, am i right about this?"
over and over and over again!
My best friend has just been made redundant and he isn't getting a look in anywhere right now. He was integrated and now has 1000 hours twin jet time and can't get an interview.
I think the "daddy's money" comments are cheap shots, but to be honest i think it's unlikely that 18 year old Afraz has managed to save up 70k+ for an integrated course doing his paper round!
I personally have no problem with anyone doing whatever they like, what i do have a problem with is someone spamming up the forum asking the same question over and over again and being an irritating fart particularly when masquerading a statement as a question.
like this:
"Surely integrated students will get preferential treatment, am i right about this?"
over and over and over again!
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Artie you have hit the nail on the head.
Seriously who cares if you are mod or int, we all have, or are going to have, the same blue book (hopefully soon to be green) at the end of it all, + we have all passed the same exams and tests. The market will pick up and we will all get the jobs we all dream of one day, IT WILL HAPPEN!
I was once fortunate enough once to have a tour around BA's Waterside and the Bouncy castle by the now retired DFO, during the tour I met the new Oxford Cadets and I was jealous to say the least. Later I was told how I really didnt want to fly for BA for my first job because I wouldnt have any good stories to tell my gran kids. At the time I took what he said on board but still lusted over the BA fleet and dreamed of flying for them as my first job. Now with hindsight I can say he is totally right. I appreciate some people idealise certian jobs but flying is flying and instead of keeping this, what can only be described as childish debate on int/mod alive we should all be focusing on helping all our fellow pilots who are unemployed at least get some free flying somewhere. Offering suggestions on where is recruiting, where pilot safety jobs are available and suggestions on where guys CV's could be sent NOT childish comments about rich daddies and such as above! Any professional pilot will agree these comments dont belong in this industry and I can say this as someone who has made reguar epaluette comments about certian schools! Every pilot will get their 'big break' and the chances are it wont have anything to do with the school they attended. So lets just cut this mod, int cp and understand that we are probably all going to get to fly together one day and probably not in the too dist future and the subject of wheather you attended mod or int wont even be covered. So lets just try and help each other out yeah. I am going to suggest pilot safety work, the money can be about £50 a day and you often get to do some loggable flying when positioning the a/c. Suggestions of companies would be Capital aviation at Exeter, Airtime in Bournemouth, I think there is a comp at Biggen and Raven air in Liverpool. I think the addresses and such can be found on ppjn . com
Happy Christmas guys and sorry for it being so far off topic!
Seriously who cares if you are mod or int, we all have, or are going to have, the same blue book (hopefully soon to be green) at the end of it all, + we have all passed the same exams and tests. The market will pick up and we will all get the jobs we all dream of one day, IT WILL HAPPEN!
I was once fortunate enough once to have a tour around BA's Waterside and the Bouncy castle by the now retired DFO, during the tour I met the new Oxford Cadets and I was jealous to say the least. Later I was told how I really didnt want to fly for BA for my first job because I wouldnt have any good stories to tell my gran kids. At the time I took what he said on board but still lusted over the BA fleet and dreamed of flying for them as my first job. Now with hindsight I can say he is totally right. I appreciate some people idealise certian jobs but flying is flying and instead of keeping this, what can only be described as childish debate on int/mod alive we should all be focusing on helping all our fellow pilots who are unemployed at least get some free flying somewhere. Offering suggestions on where is recruiting, where pilot safety jobs are available and suggestions on where guys CV's could be sent NOT childish comments about rich daddies and such as above! Any professional pilot will agree these comments dont belong in this industry and I can say this as someone who has made reguar epaluette comments about certian schools! Every pilot will get their 'big break' and the chances are it wont have anything to do with the school they attended. So lets just cut this mod, int cp and understand that we are probably all going to get to fly together one day and probably not in the too dist future and the subject of wheather you attended mod or int wont even be covered. So lets just try and help each other out yeah. I am going to suggest pilot safety work, the money can be about £50 a day and you often get to do some loggable flying when positioning the a/c. Suggestions of companies would be Capital aviation at Exeter, Airtime in Bournemouth, I think there is a comp at Biggen and Raven air in Liverpool. I think the addresses and such can be found on ppjn . com
Happy Christmas guys and sorry for it being so far off topic!
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I thought this clown was on a PPRuNe wind up. But the same question has been asked by someone with the same name on a facebook airline pilot group.
And the Ryanair crew group!
Best thread ever!