Logging PPL hours in Jeppesen logbook
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From: Father Earth
Logging PPL hours in Jeppesen logbook
Hi all,
I've just bought a new Jeppesen professional pilot logbook and have started transferring my PPL hours. Now this logbook has several more fields to fill in than I am used to so I would first like to check that I am actually doing the right thing.
I am unsure of he following:
1. Single pilot time / Multi pilot time
I presume that all hours flown solo will be logged under single pilot time and the hours flown with an instructor go under multi pilot time?
(I know it sounds obvious but just wanted to check)
2. Pilot function time
My solo hours will obviously go down as PIC time. Would my hours with an instructor go down under Dual time?
If they do go down as dual then my last question is: do they only count towards my TT for CPL purposes or can they be counted as PIC (after all I flew the plane under the supervision of an instructor)?
If they don't count as PIC then I would have around 15 hours PIC following my PPL - does that sound about the right amount to have?
Thanks in advance for all answers!
I've just bought a new Jeppesen professional pilot logbook and have started transferring my PPL hours. Now this logbook has several more fields to fill in than I am used to so I would first like to check that I am actually doing the right thing.
I am unsure of he following:
1. Single pilot time / Multi pilot time
I presume that all hours flown solo will be logged under single pilot time and the hours flown with an instructor go under multi pilot time?
(I know it sounds obvious but just wanted to check)
2. Pilot function time
My solo hours will obviously go down as PIC time. Would my hours with an instructor go down under Dual time?
If they do go down as dual then my last question is: do they only count towards my TT for CPL purposes or can they be counted as PIC (after all I flew the plane under the supervision of an instructor)?
If they don't count as PIC then I would have around 15 hours PIC following my PPL - does that sound about the right amount to have?
Thanks in advance for all answers!
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Single pilot - Multi pilot
Multi Pilot time is any time flown on a multi crew aircraft, as part of a multi crew operation, associated with an MCC and a type rating.
Pilot function
Does this read as P1/P2 Dual & Instructor ?
As a PPL you will log time as either P1 or Dual. With P1 being any time you fly as P1 (solo) or P1S (exam). Any time with an instructor will be logged as Dual.
P2 is used for Multi crew flying where you will be flying as a PNF.
Multi Pilot time is any time flown on a multi crew aircraft, as part of a multi crew operation, associated with an MCC and a type rating.
Pilot function
Does this read as P1/P2 Dual & Instructor ?
As a PPL you will log time as either P1 or Dual. With P1 being any time you fly as P1 (solo) or P1S (exam). Any time with an instructor will be logged as Dual.
P2 is used for Multi crew flying where you will be flying as a PNF.
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I presume that all hours flown solo will be logged under single pilot time and the hours flown with an instructor go under multi pilot time?
My solo hours will obviously go down as PIC time.
Would my hours with an instructor go down under Dual time?
do they only count towards my TT for CPL purposes
or can they be counted as PIC (after all I flew the plane under the supervision of an instructor)?
If they don't count as PIC then I would have around 15 hours PIC following my PPL - does that sound about the right amount to have?
I'm disappointed that your school didn't go through this with you!
Cheers
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A few other tips as well. I have the same jeppy logbook. When you start getting into the sim phase of your training note those hours in the far right column of your logbook BUT make sure that they don't add into your total flying hours as they are only loggable for the purposes of licence issue. You can log the serial number of make and model of the FNTP device if you wish to please the CAA.
Also make good use of the remarks section so that when the CAA is going through your logbook they can follow what you are up to. eg: 300nm x-country, 140 etc.
Get the school to stamp your pages once they are complete or the CFI to sign them off in the absence of a stamp.
Finally don't be afraid to annotate any of the columns to make them work for you. When I started airline flying I have for example annotated the P1 column to be P1/s for the times when the skipper will sign off my flying as acting P1 under his/her supervision.
Good luck.
Also make good use of the remarks section so that when the CAA is going through your logbook they can follow what you are up to. eg: 300nm x-country, 140 etc.
Get the school to stamp your pages once they are complete or the CFI to sign them off in the absence of a stamp.
Finally don't be afraid to annotate any of the columns to make them work for you. When I started airline flying I have for example annotated the P1 column to be P1/s for the times when the skipper will sign off my flying as acting P1 under his/her supervision.
Good luck.
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From: Saraksh
what is actually best time to switch to professional logbook? I am in the middle of ATPL at the moment, haven't started IR, ME or CPL training yet, need some hours HB.
Can I just start start professional logbook after obtaining CPL, just before real job? Do I need than transfer evrything (all flights) then into big logbook ot it will be enough just to write hours?
Can I just start start professional logbook after obtaining CPL, just before real job? Do I need than transfer evrything (all flights) then into big logbook ot it will be enough just to write hours?
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From: EGLG
Hello every one. I tried a search could not find anything relevant. I've got the Jepp JAR-FCL 1.080 requirements log book, and need some help filling it with my PPL hours. The instructions for use gives me a good idea,
I'm unsure about the "grey/shaded" row. That row is left blank, unless simulator time is flown correct?
The "Total from previous pages" and "Total Time". Are those the totals carried on from the previous page?
If any one could PM or show me an example of a filled page I would appreciate it.
I'm unsure about the "grey/shaded" row. That row is left blank, unless simulator time is flown correct?
The "Total from previous pages" and "Total Time". Are those the totals carried on from the previous page?
If any one could PM or show me an example of a filled page I would appreciate it.
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Airbusboy, you fill in the shaded rows as normal. They're only shaded to make it easier to follow the rows across the page.
One question I have, which relates to the OP's first question is do I still tick the 'Single Pilot Time SE' box when under instruction (dual) or just leave it blank?
One question I have, which relates to the OP's first question is do I still tick the 'Single Pilot Time SE' box when under instruction (dual) or just leave it blank?
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A manned aircraft can only be single pilot or multi pilot. Dual instruction is a scenario which obviously requires two pilots in an otherwise single pilot machine, but the instructor is only there to provide instruction, not to actually help you operate - so it's a single pilot operation. Log it as single pilot.
