JAA. First do CPL checkride then ATPL Theory?
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Do FAA in the US. Immediatley fly up for JAA CPL and IR (don't think you can do JAA IR in the US) in the US because it's cheaper. Then comeback to Europe and do ATPL theory. Meanwhile maybe work as FI in the US. Not sure if it's difficult to get FI job.
That was one strategy. I forgot the other one
Eikido
That was one strategy. I forgot the other one
Eikido
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You're getting confused with the FAA system.
Over there it's feasible to do the CPL exam (singular) and get your CPL at 250hrs. Then you can build hours, instruct etc.. (no multi-pilot required for FAA ATPL) and do the ATP exam (singular) and the ATP checkride. FAA ATP issued having never flown anything more than a C150. Good huh?
Over here in JAA-land, the CPL is 9 exams, the IR is 7 (but IR HPL credits for CPL), so to do it that way means taking 15 exams. The ATPL exams are almost the same, but there's only 14 of them as you're not taking almost identical exams twice (as you would for CPL and IR). The effort required for ATPL over CPL and IR is only moderate; things like global climatology, transonic dynamics, intercontinental nav which aren't required for CPL and IR.
To sum up, if you want to be an airline pilot in JAA-land get your head down and do the ATPL exams, then do your CPL and IR within 3 years of passing the last exam. Your ATPL theory credit is valid for 7 years (if memory serves) from your last IR renewal. Keep your IR current and the theory credit doesn't lapse. Then if you're really, really lucky you might get an underpaid FO job in a few years.
Over there it's feasible to do the CPL exam (singular) and get your CPL at 250hrs. Then you can build hours, instruct etc.. (no multi-pilot required for FAA ATPL) and do the ATP exam (singular) and the ATP checkride. FAA ATP issued having never flown anything more than a C150. Good huh?
Over here in JAA-land, the CPL is 9 exams, the IR is 7 (but IR HPL credits for CPL), so to do it that way means taking 15 exams. The ATPL exams are almost the same, but there's only 14 of them as you're not taking almost identical exams twice (as you would for CPL and IR). The effort required for ATPL over CPL and IR is only moderate; things like global climatology, transonic dynamics, intercontinental nav which aren't required for CPL and IR.
To sum up, if you want to be an airline pilot in JAA-land get your head down and do the ATPL exams, then do your CPL and IR within 3 years of passing the last exam. Your ATPL theory credit is valid for 7 years (if memory serves) from your last IR renewal. Keep your IR current and the theory credit doesn't lapse. Then if you're really, really lucky you might get an underpaid FO job in a few years.
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FAA ATP issued having never flown anything more than a C150. Good huh?
Of course that's an ATP SEL. Usual way around here is IR-CPL ME/SE-ATP ME. The ATP SE is more of an "add-on" rating unless you end up flying Caravans or PC-12's.
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Fine, if you want to be pedantic.... Just saying that the FAA system is a whole lot clearer and has a lot less in terms of "rules for the sake of rules".
PPL: Exam, Test
CPL: Exam, Test
IR: Exam, Test
ATP: Exam, Test
etc....
PPL: Exam, Test
CPL: Exam, Test
IR: Exam, Test
ATP: Exam, Test
etc....
