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Old 21st June 2008 | 13:17
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From what I see here, there's help given to Chris, but because of his attitude, people are starting to argue here. I think it would be good idea to close this thread as it doesn't help very much
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Old 21st June 2008 | 13:18
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Chrissy, i dont see how you can call me stuck up, when your so far up your own a**e, that you cant take a tiny bit of critism from your peers.

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Old 21st June 2008 | 13:25
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Chris!

No one is here a damn stuck up. For God's sake! Grow up! I'm sixteen and I'm more mature than you! ( i think, correct me if Im wrong ). We're all trying to help you, you're not always right you know? As I've already said in one of my posts in this thread. Change your attitude. Grow up, and maybe then come back to the forum.

If you sign on to a school, and an instructor will tell you things you do wrong/right you can't argue with him, like you do right now with loads of people. Before you write something stupid again, think twice!
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Old 21st June 2008 | 13:51
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I think reading books, articles and features that have and will be suggested is a good idea. However, the many that I have read normally use sound experience of life, maturity and education as a given, therefore, they'll often offer advice as to the practical side of commercial flying rather than the personal qualities needed as prerequisites to applying to an airline. I haven't read the book Redsnail has referred you to, so could be wrong here.

Best advice I could think of for you (bearing in mind I'm no qualified than the next person) is that you start with the basics. Forget the licenses, hours, exams and airline jobs for a moment and focus the next few years on getting your personal qualities up to scratch. That is, engage in some teambuilding via work or extra-curricular activities, go to university if you can afford it, or make sure you do plenty of work around people. Voluntary work is often a good route for this - you have the opportunity to work with lots of groups of people in a hands-on and practical environment; similar to the type of work that airline piloting is based around. Also focus on your current studies so you have a good basic education.

You are right. Nobody knows you on these boards, but we do know the behaviour you have displayed....along the lines of aggressive, defensive and mostly immature.

As soon as you become a well-rounded person with a good attitude towards life and a sound education, you can only succeed.

If you don't embark on the basic stepping stones, any experienced Human Resources officer / ex airline Captain will very quickly pick up on something not being right. You might get lucky and be good at hiding certain traits, but they'll certainly have a doubt about you and be assured that if there is a doubt, you don't get the job.

Low houred pilots fighting for commercial jobs is competitive, very competitive. Why do yourself a disservice and put yourself out of the running at the beginning?

Good luck with it all
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Old 22nd June 2008 | 15:45
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Chris......

I was once a 17 year old in the middle of A-Levels, desperate to become a Pilot but with seemingly little or no chance of finding the money I too looked at ATC quite seriously. So believe me, I know how frustrating and mind boggling it can all be. In the end, after 4 years of working to make sure I have a back up career I was lucky enough to secure the money. I've just got my PPL and start ATPL's in a couple of weeks time so in no way consider myself to be experienced but I have been in this long enough to realise that this is a very small industry and the guys/girls you talk to on here come from a host of backgrounds pooling together a wealth of information and advice. My career started based on the advice and info I gathered on this forum. So..... with that in mind I would suggest you make use of the people on here rather than going off on one and calling people Pricks and Nobs. In short... ditch the attitude because it won't get you anywhere on here or in aviation at all.

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Old 22nd June 2008 | 16:44
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As I said, Chris is having a week's 'holiday' so cannot see or respond to the comments.

Therefore I am locking the thread and no doubt when he returns he can read some of the commonsense advice that has been offered.

I think it is fair to all parties to leave it there!

'Nuf said

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