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Old 11th May 2008, 13:43
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If I join OAA for the full time Ground School, can anyone tell me what I will be expected to wear??

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Old 11th May 2008, 14:06
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navy trousers, Navy "OAA" jumper, white pilot shirt, OAA epaulletes, black shoes. oh and the OAA tie.
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Old 11th May 2008, 14:55
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its a bit sickening isnt it! A walking advert for OAA. I like the way they stick you in a pilots uniform b4 uve even flown a plane.
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and don't forget is't black tie for dinner!
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What a crock of SH1T

Why should we need to wear a uniform.

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so oxford can make even more money by forcing you to buy it.
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Because your future employer will insist on the same?

Get over it. if you feel so precious that the only thing you have to gripe about is not being able to wear your abercrombies (note not Abercrombie & Fitch), then maybe you just need to take a reality check yourself.
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Old 11th May 2008, 20:19
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don't forget is't black tie for dinner
Tie, Indian, Chinese... I'm not particularly fussed what I eat.
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Old 11th May 2008, 20:23
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the employer arguement is not valid.

The employer is paying you to wear their attire.

You are the paying customer at OAA.

Personally wearing the uniform doesn't bother me. I've just gotten used to it. There are plenty of more important things wrong with OAA than the uniform believe me.
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Old 11th May 2008, 21:04
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There are plenty of more important things wrong with OAA than the uniform believe me.
Would you care to share???

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Old 11th May 2008, 21:10
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This isn't just unique to OAA, CTC and Cabair (and I'm sure there are others) have a similar setup whereby you wear a uniform to ground school lessons.
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Old 11th May 2008, 21:23
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How about instructors that have no idea what they are teaching.. all ex RAN RAF you name it and thus its an old boys club. If you arent ex military or English then you are below them!

The double standards between modular and integrated, the extortionate prices they charge for the stupid courses when Bristol and some wise planning would save you a hell of a lot of money.

And to top it off lies and lies about your chances of a job. Mind you not that this in unique to Oxford but i think they truly do believe what they tell you which is worrying.

Overall I wasn't impressed when I was there and I've heard it got worse.

To top it off I made it to the wall of people THEY had found work for. Unfortunately they didn't ask to use my name and forgot to tell everyone that I did all the work off my own back!
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Old 11th May 2008, 21:24
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VFR.

Well, I would say that A hilton hotel is in general better than a travelodge.

Partly because the Hilton hotel is more expensive and gives a higher class product. Also lets say the travelodge would say cater for 100 guests at a time and fills it's rooms with 100 guests. For arguements sake lets say the Hilton caters for 500 guests. The Hilton would need more and sometimes better facilities than the travelodge. The Hilton fills it's quota of 500 and everyone is happy.

Now lets say the travelodge sticks to it's capacity of 100 guests but the Hilton decides to pile 2000 guests into it's hotel thus stretching it's capacity to almost breaking point, so much so that it's private study areas are now being used as classrooms and the carparking situation is just stupid as they are digging up the already too small car park.

maybe the travelodge becomes a more appealing option.
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Old 11th May 2008, 21:36
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Rhodes13 don't hold back now!!!

I actually agree with most of what Rhodes said. I'm starting my final week of groundschool tomorrow and i can't wait to get out of here. Rhodes is absolutely spot on about the glaring double standards between integrated and modular. OAA will swear until they are blue in the face that CBR and APP courses are treated the same in groundschool..THEY AREN'T. It astounds me that OAA won't admit it. Actually a good example is uniform, you will see mods with bits of uniform missing as the stuff that they have orderred was given to an integrated student.

As for the instruction, in fairness i thought it was pretty good. Some of the instructors are absolutely brilliant. I found two, however to be very very poor. 1 in each phase. This is two too many. Also Rhodes13 is right, some of the instructors do witter on about military crap far too much, do they not realised that if i wanted to hear about the military i would have bloody joined the military!!

Also EVERY single OAA student I know uses the bristol database for JAA exam prep and not oxcel, that should tell you something. If i had my time over i would have done bristol distance learning or somewhere less like a boarding school.
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Old 11th May 2008, 21:44
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Overall I wasn't impressed when I was there and I've heard it got worse.
I understand they think just as highly of you too.
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Chrisbl did I upset the rocking cart?

Why bother some people cant see the forest from the trees.

But hey if you want to spend all your money at a second rate flying school go right ahead.

But hey ho I could at least say I've been to Oxford and rub one out at the thought that BA will be calling me soon for a job!!!

Back to the uniform. Yes you do have to wear one. Yes it boring but think of it this way, at least you dont have to decide what to wear in the morning. Choice made!

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Old 11th May 2008, 23:12
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It looks pathetic and stupid when people with f all hours learning how to fly are wearing a uniform with epaulettes and those bloody ray bans!!!!
Imagine your in a shop and a random person asks what airline you fly for!!!!!Ans=oh eh im getting instruction in a 2 seat piece of crap with a broken heater and dodgy radio!!!Sounds stupid doesnt it
If you work for a company than fine other than that wearing a uniform is a no no but hey rules are rules and if oaa want it then u gotta do it.
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Old 11th May 2008, 23:28
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Imagine your in a shop and a random person asks what airline you fly for!!!!!Ans=oh eh im getting instruction in a 2 seat piece of crap with a broken heater and dodgy radio!!!
Actually, I found it deeply insulting when I walked past a little kid who, pointing at me and tugging his mother's hand, said, "Mummy, mummy, look at that policeman..." ;-)
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Old 11th May 2008, 23:37
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Actually, I found it deeply insulting when I walked past a little kid who, pointing at me and tugging his mother's hand, said, "Mummy, mummy, look at that policeman..." ;-)
Why, as a student, should it be insulting to be mistaken for a policeman?

Anyway guys, get over it - we all wear uniforms; every day! Whatever your situation, you wear a uniform. And if you don't understand that, you have a wee bit to learn about human nature!!!

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Old 12th May 2008, 01:54
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As a policeman, I too find it deeply insulting that you were mistaken for one.
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