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Old 27th Apr 2008, 23:13
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Need help with my project

I have this project to complete for my aeronautical engineering course at college but i need some help with an idea of what to do for the project.

Basically, i have to choose an area in which i can improve/make a modification of an existing part/section/function of an aircraft.

The trouble i am having is that since i started my ppl and further aviation study, i cant think of anything that i can personally do that will be a useful modification.

To give you an idea, other people in the class (with little aviation knowledge) have chosen such things as window wipers and early warning systems for missiles.

So please help me think of something to do for this project, preferably a useful modification that can be done to a PA-28 or 152 for example, remembering that i need something i can work with and write a formal report on.

Hope you guys can help me out here and throw me some useful ideas.

Cheers

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Both those examples already exist on other aircraft. So if you're wanting an imporvement to a PA-28 or 152, why not look at the kind of things on top-end biz jets or modern airliners, and think about applying them to a small prop. Some examples:

Enhanced Vision Systems
Ice detection/Anti-ice
FMSs and the like (incl GPS)
FADEC(!)
Cellphone capability
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Cupholders ... you can never have too many cupholders.

(noted that you're doing your homework very late on a Sunday night - some things never change)
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Old 28th Apr 2008, 01:15
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It was actually due in about 4 weeks ago but i was involved in a car accident so hasnt been in my top priorities. Certainly lower than "surviving".
 
Old 28th Apr 2008, 01:17
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Ah, now these are brilliant ideas thank you!

I need to do some research and development first but i will probably pick one of those that you have suggested. Just got to make sure its something i can research and find enough information about first
 
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Is that how you will solve all tasks given to you in your education and career?

Get somebody else to solve them for you?

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How about a lightweight system for an 'auto-pushback' feature

This could make ground-ops much smoother and faster, and do away with those (enviromentally) dirty tugs.

The project could be expanded beyond the actual system to include items such as rear facing cameras for the pilots to view and maybe even a ground TCAS???

Just an idea anyway!


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Old 28th Apr 2008, 09:23
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Keygrip.

Oh i didnt realise someone was going to actually complete my whole project on here. I thought i was just at the initial idea gathering stage where i can research existing products on the market and potential areas for improvment and development.

What better way than to ask the people that actually use them everyday?
 
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Keygrip – isn’t this research, SparksFlyHigh is using his initiative, merely enquiring of plausible ideas. I recall most airlines provide questionnaires prior to vacating the aircraft, which they then use to investigate what could be improved, alternatively, how to make the journey more comfortable and so on….where’s the difference..?

Over the past month, I have been observant to a noticeable increase of hostile post in a variety of threads – I’m unsure of the reason for this, I recall as a youngster, my late grandmother regularly commented “If you don’t have any thing nice to say, refrain from saying anything..!”….Very true.
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Old 28th Apr 2008, 10:07
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I agree, im sure you will also be marked on the research you have undertaken and i would say going to a pilots forum and asking them their opinion is good work.

My neighbour parks his caravan by means of a radio control. This controls motors on the wheels and lets him reverse it into his driveway whils walking round it. Im not sure whether this is already available for aircraft but ive always thought it would be good.

Alternatively an anti-ice system that uses the rear window strips could possibly be adapted to run along the wings.

Good luck with it though and keep us all posted.
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Old 28th Apr 2008, 10:15
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Hi

You have probably already completed your project but here's one especially as I am learning in a 152 @ EGNM.

Keep it simple;

I always worry about tailstrike in the aircraft especially as the winds at Leeds can be variable, due to the geographical location of the runway.

So maybe a tailstrike wheel would be a good idea, bit like they used to have on concorde.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=akEMMVrAlDc

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Old 28th Apr 2008, 10:20
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Prophead, appriciate the ideas, still obviously deciding on what to do but i will let you know when i have.

I was thinking the same thing with the research, thought this was the best place to come. I have already been sitting in G-BPTE trying to think of things but coming on here has proven worthwhile.
 
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I think the early warning missile detector for a PA28 is a fab idea, totally useless, but a fab idea all the same
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Old 28th Apr 2008, 11:17
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How about a device which detects carb icing?
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Old 28th Apr 2008, 11:34
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In regards to the PA28 or 152, how about a terrain warning system? or even a large obsticle warning? This could be useful for IMC pilots. You could find out how the terrain warning system works on larger aircraft and adapt this to suit light aircraft. Just a thought.
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Old 28th Apr 2008, 11:51
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Exactly. See what im up against

I think as long as i have a plausible idea i should be alright. Some of the ideas people in the class have come up with are laughable
 
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I agree with a simplified GPWS system...a warning tied in with a radio altimeter. "Controlled flight into terrain" is a common cause of accidents in GA; something that could be prevented.

Oh and if you're feeling brave, a resolution advisory on the VSI showing the climb rate needed to clear the obstacle
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How about a Mode Charlie transponder that bitches at you if you don't turn it on?

Anything to stop the "Traffic left 10 O'clock, slow moving, no height information if not sighted turn....."
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Old 28th Apr 2008, 12:30
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Yeah good idea Cyclone.

Already have filed an airprox after only 14 hours in my logbook. Well, my instructor did, i dont like paperwork.
 
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Mercenary Pilot - Good example, I would be delighted to see somthing similar to this introduced..I find it difficult to believe that a standard piece of equipment does not exist already!

Prophead - Yes... Although, it would be more appropriate attached to an armchair - no more getting up to make a coffee, the wife might get a rest..!!! Sorry....Sorry....

To be serious, depending on the level and practicalities of your course, I would consider something basic, practical more importantly doable. I suggest you investigate the ergonomics of the Mixture lever. So many pilots have experienced serious incidents as a result of leaning the mixture as apposed to reducing the throttle when returning to the airfield. Assess various possibilities how one could reduce this occurrence of this basic error. Investigate whether or not it would be a plausible to introduce a warning system, for example, at a predetermined threshold of the mixture, a visual light or an audible sound would be produced, this would indicate you’ve attained that threshold. Alternatively, redesign the ergonomics of the lever so that the Pilot is more aware, no not just the colour on the top of the handle, but possibly investigate the texture and feel of the lever – would you relocate it, should it be larger, smaller and so on….,

Best of luck!
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