Has Cloud 9 Aviation Gone Bust???
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According to Standards Document 31, Version 82, published on 5 February 2008 (11 days ago), neither Leeds Flying School nor Cloud 9 Aviation hold any approvals for JAA training.
K!!! I did have a look at that and couldn't see when it was updated...Let's hope this gets resolved soon...
I'm not sure how it all works but how would a flying school with this many problems not be investigated by the CAA?
I did recieve a pm along time ago that was claiming that the company or the owner had a law suit against them but this could be speculation.
What so, they aren't even approved to do any Flight Training including PPL, night rating etc!!
...how would a flying school with this many problems not be investigated by the CAA?
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ill tell you why no caa investigations , because what is there to investigate?? and yes they have approvals at leeds,get facts right, i think there should be a wooden spoon award for a few people on here
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Arr Shatstabba you spoke, so nice to see you working on your people skills 
So which memeber of Cloud9 are you?? Shaun, Tom, Emily
I see that Shaws360 has been succeeded.
I think there should be an award for the most obvious employee for someone.
Back to the thread
Been watching this thread since it started as i looked into C9 for my training, instead went to MF. Last two weeks ive been flying i havent seen any C9 aircraft in leeds (apart from the GA7 that managed to leave). So with it being 2 months until EGSY closes down not much happening in Leeds at the moment.
No phones answered, no emails replyed to, as other posters have experienced.
Wondered even if they were still going as theres no movement at EGNM, no activity at EGSY.
Maybe Shatstabba can tell some truth instead of shatstabbing at everyone on pprune, whats happening???
So which memeber of Cloud9 are you?? Shaun, Tom, Emily
I see that Shaws360 has been succeeded.
I think there should be an award for the most obvious employee for someone.
Back to the thread
Been watching this thread since it started as i looked into C9 for my training, instead went to MF. Last two weeks ive been flying i havent seen any C9 aircraft in leeds (apart from the GA7 that managed to leave). So with it being 2 months until EGSY closes down not much happening in Leeds at the moment. No phones answered, no emails replyed to, as other posters have experienced.
Wondered even if they were still going as theres no movement at EGNM, no activity at EGSY.
Maybe Shatstabba can tell some truth instead of shatstabbing at everyone on pprune, whats happening???
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Best bet, contact the CAA directly to check the current status of approvals as the list on their website can sometimes be out of date. Although this appears to have been updated fairly recently.
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They'll update it if theres ever a change of status, the CAA aren't lazy, if anything they are perfectionists. If a FTO loses or gains approvals - they'll update it asap
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CAA list of approved FTO's has been updated again as of 29th Feb 08 with no mention of Leeds Flying School of Cloud 9, so doesn't look like they have any current approvals. Sheffield must be almost closed now too. A look on G-INFO also shows most of the fleet have an expired C of A with a "No Flight" declaration.
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Oh well, looks like they are dead (as a company). Looks as though they have nowhere to go for help. Wonder if they are still flying a/c without CoA anymore?? Thats if they can afford fuel, landing fees???
Love to hear some insider news so we can lay this thread to bed??
Love to hear some insider news so we can lay this thread to bed??
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Cloud 9 gone
I am advised the Head Of Training, resigned at Leeds, no HOT no FTO. So they cant do any training for CPL or ATPL ground school. Cloud 9 aircraft on the Sheffield apron have baliffs notices on them seizing them for unpaid bills. Both offices at Sheffield have been emptied, late one night apparently. Three Cloud 9 aircraft at Sturgate have had their props removed to prevent them being flown out because of unpaid engineering bills. I will leave it to your imagination as to whether Cloud 9 is still a viable entity. Try ringing their number now. Regards Karl.
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I found this subject very interesting and decided to have a look into it a bit more and to find out what has really happend.
Now, from what I have found from many people I have talked too is that the owner is a 'fantasist', 'a liar' and 'a cheat'. (Comes from more than one source) If you happen to fly to ANYWHERE in the north of England at any point then just ask anyone at the airfield you land at what Cloud 9 was/ is like!!! You will be surprised at what you hear.
A good friend of mine was based at Sheffield City Airport which sadly is closing soon. He tells me they got a bad reputation at Sandtoft, Gamston and Sheffield City.
I didn't know about Leeds Flying School but it seems to be a shame that this has happend to once a great school.
I thought i'd pass on what info I have to lighten this thread. Let's hope they have gone under to prevent anyone losing money. I did read on another forum that one guy had money in the company ready to do his Commercial Flight training!!!
Are there any students from Cloud 9 still out there??
Now, from what I have found from many people I have talked too is that the owner is a 'fantasist', 'a liar' and 'a cheat'. (Comes from more than one source) If you happen to fly to ANYWHERE in the north of England at any point then just ask anyone at the airfield you land at what Cloud 9 was/ is like!!! You will be surprised at what you hear.
A good friend of mine was based at Sheffield City Airport which sadly is closing soon. He tells me they got a bad reputation at Sandtoft, Gamston and Sheffield City.
I didn't know about Leeds Flying School but it seems to be a shame that this has happend to once a great school.
I thought i'd pass on what info I have to lighten this thread. Let's hope they have gone under to prevent anyone losing money. I did read on another forum that one guy had money in the company ready to do his Commercial Flight training!!!
Are there any students from Cloud 9 still out there??
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Cloud9Aviation run by bankrupt....see details and google the text for more info.
Having a friend who is taking this company to court for a a second unpaid website, i can vouch that Mr Wilkinson (i believe Sean) is in fact a bankrupt from the Leeds area, who formerly was director of Cloud9 Recruitment based in Leeds:
The company i understand to be absolute con merchants, and i have reason to believe that the last poster is completely correct in calling him an absolute fantasist, a cheat and a liar....and no stranger to the court system in the Yorkshire region, i wonder why!!
Ironically i hear he also has a website named: www.injustice.biz ...Brilliant!
DO NOT GO NEAR A MR SEAN MICHAEL WILKINSON OR ANY VARIATION OF CLOUD9 IN ANY WAY IF YOU VALUE YOUR TIME, MONEY AND SANITY....BE FULLY WARNED AND REMEMBER THAT NAME!
"CLOUD NINE: Insolvency Service Serves Seven-year Ban on Director
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A director of two recruitment agency businesses that failed with
total debts estimated at around GBP270,000 has given an
Undertaking not to hold directorships or take any part in
company management for seven years.
The Undertaking by Shaun Michael Wilkinson of Bentley Square,
Oulton, Leeds, was given in respect of his conduct as a director
of Cloud Nine Industrial Recruitment Limited and Cloud Nine
Charters Limited, which both carried out business from premises
at Waverley House, 14 Woodhouse Square, Leeds, LS31 1AQ.
Acceptance of the Undertaking on December 7, 2004 prevents Shaun
Michael Wilkinson from being a director of a company or, in any
way, whether directly or indirectly, being concerned in or
taking part in the promotion, formation or management of a
company for the above period. Industrial was placed into
voluntary liquidation on July 30, 2001 with estimated debts of
GBP195,837 owed to its creditors. Charters was placed into
voluntary liquidation on August 14, 2002 with estimated debts of
GBP74,933 owed to its creditors.
The Insolvency Service, on behalf of the Secretary of State for
Trade & Industry, has responsibility (under Section (6) of the
Company Directors Disqualification Act 1986) for the
investigation of the conduct of directors of failed companies
and for the disqualification of those who are considered to be
unfit to be involved in the management of companies in the
future."
Matters of unfit conduct, not disputed by Shaun Michael
Wilkinson solely for the purpose of the undertaking, were that
he:
(a) Caused Industrial to trade in breach of its statutory
obligations to both the Inland Revenue and HM Customs and
Excise;
(b) Caused Charters to fail to deal with its VAT and PAYE/NIC
obligations and to trade from November 1, 2001 in respect of
VAT and at the very latest from February 19, 2002 in respect
of PAYE/NIC, to the detriment and at the risk of HM Customs
and Excise and of the Inland Revenue;
(c) Failed, as required by the administrative receiver, to lodge
a sworn statement of affairs for Charters as at August 14,
2002 or to submit a completed director's questionnaire,
thereby hampering the administrative receivers in the
exercise of their statutory duties; and
(d) Caused Charters to continue substantially the same business
as that of Industrial, which went into liquidation on July
30, 2001, without providing any additional capital and
consequently without reasonable grounds to expect that
Charters could succeed where Industrial failed.
CONTACT: THE INSOLVENCY SERVICE
21 Bloomsbury Street
London, WC1B 3QW
Web site: http://www.insolvency.gov.uk
Disqualification Unit
Phone: 020 7291 6807
020 7291 6832 (Vetting)
E-mail: [email protected]
Criminal Allegations Team
Phone: 020 7291 6841
E-mail: [email protected]
The company i understand to be absolute con merchants, and i have reason to believe that the last poster is completely correct in calling him an absolute fantasist, a cheat and a liar....and no stranger to the court system in the Yorkshire region, i wonder why!!
Ironically i hear he also has a website named: www.injustice.biz ...Brilliant!
DO NOT GO NEAR A MR SEAN MICHAEL WILKINSON OR ANY VARIATION OF CLOUD9 IN ANY WAY IF YOU VALUE YOUR TIME, MONEY AND SANITY....BE FULLY WARNED AND REMEMBER THAT NAME!
"CLOUD NINE: Insolvency Service Serves Seven-year Ban on Director
----------------------------------------------------------------
A director of two recruitment agency businesses that failed with
total debts estimated at around GBP270,000 has given an
Undertaking not to hold directorships or take any part in
company management for seven years.
The Undertaking by Shaun Michael Wilkinson of Bentley Square,
Oulton, Leeds, was given in respect of his conduct as a director
of Cloud Nine Industrial Recruitment Limited and Cloud Nine
Charters Limited, which both carried out business from premises
at Waverley House, 14 Woodhouse Square, Leeds, LS31 1AQ.
Acceptance of the Undertaking on December 7, 2004 prevents Shaun
Michael Wilkinson from being a director of a company or, in any
way, whether directly or indirectly, being concerned in or
taking part in the promotion, formation or management of a
company for the above period. Industrial was placed into
voluntary liquidation on July 30, 2001 with estimated debts of
GBP195,837 owed to its creditors. Charters was placed into
voluntary liquidation on August 14, 2002 with estimated debts of
GBP74,933 owed to its creditors.
The Insolvency Service, on behalf of the Secretary of State for
Trade & Industry, has responsibility (under Section (6) of the
Company Directors Disqualification Act 1986) for the
investigation of the conduct of directors of failed companies
and for the disqualification of those who are considered to be
unfit to be involved in the management of companies in the
future."
Matters of unfit conduct, not disputed by Shaun Michael
Wilkinson solely for the purpose of the undertaking, were that
he:
(a) Caused Industrial to trade in breach of its statutory
obligations to both the Inland Revenue and HM Customs and
Excise;
(b) Caused Charters to fail to deal with its VAT and PAYE/NIC
obligations and to trade from November 1, 2001 in respect of
VAT and at the very latest from February 19, 2002 in respect
of PAYE/NIC, to the detriment and at the risk of HM Customs
and Excise and of the Inland Revenue;
(c) Failed, as required by the administrative receiver, to lodge
a sworn statement of affairs for Charters as at August 14,
2002 or to submit a completed director's questionnaire,
thereby hampering the administrative receivers in the
exercise of their statutory duties; and
(d) Caused Charters to continue substantially the same business
as that of Industrial, which went into liquidation on July
30, 2001, without providing any additional capital and
consequently without reasonable grounds to expect that
Charters could succeed where Industrial failed.
CONTACT: THE INSOLVENCY SERVICE
21 Bloomsbury Street
London, WC1B 3QW
Web site: http://www.insolvency.gov.uk
Disqualification Unit
Phone: 020 7291 6807
020 7291 6832 (Vetting)
E-mail: [email protected]
Criminal Allegations Team
Phone: 020 7291 6841
E-mail: [email protected]
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Still there me thinks.
This one from "truth" 24th April 08:
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You have received a new Private Message from truth
Subject: read
plese find message on pprune
if you can emphasise on the liar cheat manipulator then please do ???
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He has such a way with words, here is a follow up dated 25th April, annoyed, perhaps a bit i think.
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You have received a new Private Message from "truth"
Subject: oi
come on message me back , i would like a chat with u................... u ****stirring mutha fukka
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I would love a chat to "truth" and teach him how to speak english properly.
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You have received a new Private Message from truth
Subject: read
plese find message on pprune
if you can emphasise on the liar cheat manipulator then please do ???------------------------------------------
He has such a way with words, here is a follow up dated 25th April, annoyed, perhaps a bit i think.
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You have received a new Private Message from "truth"
Subject: oi
come on message me back , i would like a chat with u................... u ****stirring mutha fukka
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I would love a chat to "truth" and teach him how to speak english properly.
Posters on this thread should make sure they understand the laws of libel.
Time and again decade after decade I tell people to go to schools near to where they live who have been around a long time and who enjoy a good reputation. Given how easy it is to find schools with a good reputation by posting on this forum I'm constantly amazed by how many people go to cheapest school with no reputation.
Many people seem to put less research into their flying school than they do their television set.
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Time and again decade after decade I tell people to go to schools near to where they live who have been around a long time and who enjoy a good reputation. Given how easy it is to find schools with a good reputation by posting on this forum I'm constantly amazed by how many people go to cheapest school with no reputation.
Many people seem to put less research into their flying school than they do their television set.
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You'll find that cloud9 didn't really publicise its take over of Leeds Flying School. Where the owner of cloud9 was already a disqualified director so the company was doomed from the start.
LFS had a very good reputation, so much so that multiflight were trying to drive them away with expensive fees for storing the aircraft at leeds.
As cloud9 never changed the name, or made it open they they owned the company, people were getting very good recommendations, not knowing the company was under different, and rather idiotic hands of a man who can even run a company, with more than one attempt!!
LFS had a very good reputation, so much so that multiflight were trying to drive them away with expensive fees for storing the aircraft at leeds.
As cloud9 never changed the name, or made it open they they owned the company, people were getting very good recommendations, not knowing the company was under different, and rather idiotic hands of a man who can even run a company, with more than one attempt!!
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The continuing fiasco of Cloud 9.
The latest news is that Mr W. and Shatstabba allegedly arrived at Sheffield with a couple of heavies, filled up G-LFSK and promptly departed runway 28 hotly pusued down the runway by the Police and court order waving baliffs. Then with the ultimate cheek flew back did a low pass and wagged his wings. Not sure if he was followed on radar but does anyone know the whereabouts of this aircraft? Pretty desperate measures for a "successful" business man? No doubt he will try and re invent himself somewhere else and con more people out of their hard earned cash. Featured on Look North as "Dispute of ownership".... "Not Arf" as the late Alan Freeman would say.
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Would be interesting to see if a flight plan was filed, or if any comms was made to any ATSU. Not long before some unsuspecting plane spotter snaps another picture and we know where it is.
Mr W must be gaining money from somewhere, to be able to fly out, as i can't seem to believe that G-LFSK was pursued down RWY28 like that, he must of pulled a fast one and paid off the bailiffs and legged it.
Somebody must of seen it come into land, or heard it en-route.
Mr W must be gaining money from somewhere, to be able to fly out, as i can't seem to believe that G-LFSK was pursued down RWY28 like that, he must of pulled a fast one and paid off the bailiffs and legged it.
Somebody must of seen it come into land, or heard it en-route.