Have an Integrated CPL, what next to get into the corporate charter market?

[Pilot259]

I have secured an integrated CPL with twin rating and would really fancy working in the corporate charter market flying smaller aircraft (anything from Seneca upwards). My research indicates that most charter companies require around 700 hours total time and ideally an IR.
My dilemma is that I haven't yet got my IR yet and only around 250 hours total time. I would certainly appreciate advice as to the best possible route into the charter market based on my experience and qualifications to date. The questions going through my mind are as follows:-
- Should I do an FI rating first to hours build and then the IR? I've heard working too long as an Instructor causes the Instrument scan to deteriorate.
- Should I get the IR first and then do an FI rating? This keeps my options open but what are my chances of getting a charter job with only 250 hours? It also involves the biggest upfront financial risk. Trying to pay loans of on a FI salary would be a real stretch.
- Do the charter companies expect you to pay for your own type-ratings?
Any advice would be much appreciated.

[shaun ryder]

Your chances of a job flying air charter with just 250 hours and no IR are non existent. I suggest you do some more research.

[rada76]

IMHO Get the IR FIRST!

Cpl without IR (assuming UK based) means no commercial work and therefore no income!. Commercial pilots fly in cloud! Alot!

CPL/IR then the decision...... FI????? Well everyones route to the front seat is different but..... I had the same chioce some 5 years ago. Postponed my FI course (got the jitters) and went hunting Piston commercial work. Fell through but landed a job parachute dropping. Left this with just over 300hr total and joined a regional airline on turboprops.

Now a captain of a 20Tonne plus Turboprop flying schedule and charter over UK and Europe.

All the best, It's not cheap, but you knew that when you started??

[NavPilot]

Should I do an FI rating first to hours build and then the IR? I've heard working too long as an Instructor causes the Instrument scan to deteriorate.

I would go the FI first.
And that is Not so much due to the financial risk you talk of...
Instructing always teaches you, sometimes a lot more than your student
And as you mention, doing the IR later will help you stay current with IF

Good luck

[smith]

How can you have an "integrated" CPL without an IR. I thought the integrated gives you the whole 9 yards including the IR and MCC.

[maxdrypower]

It does , unless one doesnt get as far as the IR. I cant believe that someone would have a CPL and not know the answers to these questions ??? Troll anyone