Flight Training Europe -v- OAT
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I've been asked to go down to Jerez for the Pilot Assessment Tests. Can anyone tell me what they consist of and what, if any, prep I should be doing?
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
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OMG izzy you are lucky you got me looking out for you 
but really you should use the search function 
FTE thread:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=215158
Make a cup of tea and get out those choccy hobnobs and have a good read.
but really you should use the search function FTE thread:
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=215158
Make a cup of tea and get out those choccy hobnobs and have a good read.
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I'd just like to point out that you haven't been asked to go to FTE for selection, you have chosen to go! No matter what the schools tell you its not the other way around!
Good luck tho, and again make sure you check out OAT so you can have all the information before you choose between the two. Good luck.
Good luck tho, and again make sure you check out OAT so you can have all the information before you choose between the two. Good luck.
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the good thing is at least with FTE the slection is free and you only have to pay the price of the return ticket from Jerez...
Omg i have unwittingly entered this debate....lol didn't mean too 
good luck
Omg i have unwittingly entered this debate
....lol didn't mean too good luck
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Selection at FTE is not free. They simply pass the cost off to their students. Except only those who pass it and enrol pay and they are paying for those who fail it or don't join too! It's a bit more difficult and costly to get there, so they probably had to drop the up front fee to get enough people to come. In the end, they are still less expensive than Oat, so most people probably don't care if they are paying the cost of assessing those who failed, but don't kid yourself into thinking anything an FTO does is free!
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ahh the old pepsi vs cola arguement again! always worth a good read! visit both schools and go with the one you feel most comfortable with. Both have fantastic reputations and have successfully trained alot of pilots.
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Lol Adios relax take a breath have some fun. Point taken.
I will simply state the fact that i pay close to £68K
at FTE and others nearly £85k at OAT. Don't kid yourself of the cost! do the sums. You will probably come back and say otherwise but i know it's true (because allot of my friends (& pruners) graduated from there with a £80K ish debt)
Ah well like Wbryce says both are fine institutions and best of luck to whichever you choose.
I will simply state the fact that i pay close to £68K
at FTE and others nearly £85k at OAT. Don't kid yourself of the cost! do the sums. You will probably come back and say otherwise but i know it's true (because allot of my friends (& pruners) graduated from there with a £80K ish debt) Ah well like Wbryce says both are fine institutions and best of luck to whichever you choose.
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Hookerbot,
£85K at Oat? Either they had a lot of retakes, went on a grand shopping spree in Phoenix and included it in their numbers or they had one heck of a beer budget. If it was the latter that put them over £85K then they are probably a good bunch of mates to have, as who wants to fly with anti-social types!
Concerning loans though, please tell me which bank grants £80K worth. I don't argue with what your friends say they spent at Oat; but the loan limit through Oat's bank is £50K. FTE's bank loans more than that so their graduates are likely to have more debt. Obviously this point has little to do with where one should train, but I didn't want to let the misperception concerning debt go unanswered.
Perhaps your Oat mates borrowed more for a type rating, but then some FTE graduates have to pay for their own as well don't they? Again, Oat's bank will give a type rating loan, but £50K plus £20K is £70K not £80K.
Nobody should take the price differences lightly. Both are great schools and both get good results for their graduates. I don't think a person goes wrong with either, so it comes down to horses for courses if you can fund either or FTE if you can't.
£85K at Oat? Either they had a lot of retakes, went on a grand shopping spree in Phoenix and included it in their numbers or they had one heck of a beer budget. If it was the latter that put them over £85K then they are probably a good bunch of mates to have, as who wants to fly with anti-social types!
Concerning loans though, please tell me which bank grants £80K worth. I don't argue with what your friends say they spent at Oat; but the loan limit through Oat's bank is £50K. FTE's bank loans more than that so their graduates are likely to have more debt. Obviously this point has little to do with where one should train, but I didn't want to let the misperception concerning debt go unanswered.
Perhaps your Oat mates borrowed more for a type rating, but then some FTE graduates have to pay for their own as well don't they? Again, Oat's bank will give a type rating loan, but £50K plus £20K is £70K not £80K.
Nobody should take the price differences lightly. Both are great schools and both get good results for their graduates. I don't think a person goes wrong with either, so it comes down to horses for courses if you can fund either or FTE if you can't.
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Hey,
With regards to the £85k debt that could be true but only if you add on top a type rating, if you do the same to FTE then they come out dam close!!
OAT is a good school, we also have the same fleet as FTE, so do not know why that is a plus for FTE but not for OAT?? We start on the warrior then progress onto the Seneca!
So far Arizona has been the best time of my life, i have so many good memories and you do not have enough time to feel home sick!! You are flying or out and about taking in the sights! Be careful though of Scottsdale now that is where your debt could go up to 85K!!
I researched both and OAT was best for me and i do not look back one bit, if i had the choice id still come here, great instructors in both groundschool and the flying phase!!!
Also getting those exams nailed before you come out to fly is one huge advantage! What happens if you struggle with one exam in phase one or two yet you still carry on flying, gives you less time to study! Also what happens if you have hit the max re-take aloud before you have to resit the whole lot! You will have spent a lot more money then a OAT grad, since they will have not done any flying!! You get the flying bug then have to sit on the ground again to do exams! That was what put me off FTE the most the rest i liked! One downside with OAT if you are below 21, u can kiss goodbye to the nights out and beers with the guys, but then again self control and being responsible will do you good in time (well thats what i tell myself!!!)!
Also i think doing the I.R back in the UK will be not an advantage but give you more experience dealing with UK airspace and RT, since this is where most of us plan to end up flying for a career!!!
Also OAT is in England i can go home to see my family, and on free times not flying or my instructors days off i can head and visit friends at Uni and keep a social life outside of OAT which i can escape to without having to plan in advance my trip home, i can get in my car and go shopping or go away!
Just my views and what swayed me towards OAT compared to FTE!!
But each to their own and go visit both and make a decision just look beyound the sun and pool, you get that with OAT after groundschool
ADWJENK
With regards to the £85k debt that could be true but only if you add on top a type rating, if you do the same to FTE then they come out dam close!!
OAT is a good school, we also have the same fleet as FTE, so do not know why that is a plus for FTE but not for OAT?? We start on the warrior then progress onto the Seneca!
So far Arizona has been the best time of my life, i have so many good memories and you do not have enough time to feel home sick!! You are flying or out and about taking in the sights! Be careful though of Scottsdale now that is where your debt could go up to 85K!!
I researched both and OAT was best for me and i do not look back one bit, if i had the choice id still come here, great instructors in both groundschool and the flying phase!!!
Also getting those exams nailed before you come out to fly is one huge advantage! What happens if you struggle with one exam in phase one or two yet you still carry on flying, gives you less time to study! Also what happens if you have hit the max re-take aloud before you have to resit the whole lot! You will have spent a lot more money then a OAT grad, since they will have not done any flying!! You get the flying bug then have to sit on the ground again to do exams! That was what put me off FTE the most the rest i liked! One downside with OAT if you are below 21, u can kiss goodbye to the nights out and beers with the guys, but then again self control and being responsible will do you good in time (well thats what i tell myself!!!)!
Also i think doing the I.R back in the UK will be not an advantage but give you more experience dealing with UK airspace and RT, since this is where most of us plan to end up flying for a career!!!
Also OAT is in England i can go home to see my family, and on free times not flying or my instructors days off i can head and visit friends at Uni and keep a social life outside of OAT which i can escape to without having to plan in advance my trip home, i can get in my car and go shopping or go away!
Just my views and what swayed me towards OAT compared to FTE!!
But each to their own and go visit both and make a decision just look beyound the sun and pool, you get that with OAT after groundschool
ADWJENK
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Dizzy Izzy!!!!!!
It sounds like your head is spinning like a top over all this stuff!!!!!
The best thing for you to do is to take your time to make the right decision!!
Bear in mind that a friend of mine who went to Spain to study for a year got really homesick and ended up coming back early!!!
Anyway as you may have guessed with a name like ` Wee Jimmy` I`m from north of the border and I know of a couple of good schools up here!
I don`t know where you live but I could give you info if you want.
Take care
Wee Jimmy
It sounds like your head is spinning like a top over all this stuff!!!!!
The best thing for you to do is to take your time to make the right decision!!
Bear in mind that a friend of mine who went to Spain to study for a year got really homesick and ended up coming back early!!!
Anyway as you may have guessed with a name like ` Wee Jimmy` I`m from north of the border and I know of a couple of good schools up here!
I don`t know where you live but I could give you info if you want.
Take care
Wee Jimmy
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Just a quote note about FTE, im training in Fly in Spain next door. I have shared a house with a guy who is in FTE and hes very happy with them. The " campus " they have looks great. their fleet are in great nick and everything looks super professional. At the moment some people in FTE are being approached by airlines asking if they would be interested to fly for them before they have even finished the course. I am strongly considering " applying for a place " in FTE when i finish the PPL. I say applying as I believe they are fairly " booked " out for the next year and really are getting to pick and choose applicants.
