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Old 28th May 2007, 11:15
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747 type rating

Is it possible to get a 747 type rating as your first rating after your professional training? Im a little in the unknown about type ratings, however, i imagined that an aircraft, such as a 747, would require an already experienced crew. Am i right in saying this? Thank you.

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Can I borrow some of your money please??
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I am sure someone would be happy to take your money off you so you could get a 747 type rating.... then getting someone to give you a job with zero hours on type I would guess would be nigh on impossible...
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Back in the early 90s a relative of mine got his first job as First Officer on a 747-400 in the Far East. TR paid for.
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Only three or four years ago people used to say that it would be impossible to get a job with any SSTR. Even, that it might be counter-productive. How things change. So...we're probably probably heading for 200hr 747 drivers (with a SSTR of course).

Yes, you can do the 747 rating as the first one.
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Old 28th May 2007, 18:39
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i may be wrong, but i think you need a Full ATPL. also you need 100 sectors (or there abts) on a a/c over 17t.
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Old 29th May 2007, 13:12
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Go to the USA, there you can get a 747 Rating with a simple Multi Engine Private Pilots license. I think its 40 hours for a private license, so you could have 40 hours and a 747 rating. CRAZY but true.

Talk about bragging rights. Hey, we can all dream.............
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Old 29th May 2007, 18:48
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Got a friend, first job out of flight school, straight on the 747-400..now that is what i call a first job!!!
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Old 29th May 2007, 19:44
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not a problem if you are in the right place,friend of mine out of oxford,no flying job for 2 years,spotted advert in HKG for SIA 747 freighter first officer position.applied and is now on the 400f,HKG resident card certainly helped,but hours proved not to be an issue.pass the type rating and you can fly the aircraft,just not that many opportunities for a rookie to jump straight onto a heavy jet.
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Old 30th May 2007, 09:49
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The type rating, at least in the US, can be attained on the private certificate. Then when the commercial and Atpl certificates are earned the type rating is automatically carried over, no futher testing.
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I wonder how much a SSTR on a 747 costs
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Old 30th May 2007, 16:02
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However you look at it. You are drastically reducing your chances of a job offer with no hours and a 744 type rating.

Much better off spending the cash on a type that is ubiquitous and likely to take low hours guys straight from training.

A320 / 737 / Turboprop
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Old 30th May 2007, 16:50
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You can borrow some of my money if you want, give me a few life times to earn it though.LOL. Thanks anyway lads!
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Old 31st May 2007, 09:49
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The Icelandic Flight Academy and Airbourne Personnel were offering self sponsored type ratings on the 747-classic a few months back, however the minimum requirement was a 1000 hours with some previous turbine time. As said in theory if you have a frozen ATPL then you can tag on any rating you can afford.

Low hours pilots have been employed as cruise refief pilots on 747s and A340s, nearly all the Cathay Pacific cadets start as cruise relief crew, which still requires them to hold the type rating, so essentially these cadets are going from 200 hours with frozen ATPL to A340/747 type rating. Virgin in the mid nineties did have a part sponsorship scheme where the course graduates were taken on as cruise relief pilots, but the company has never since repeated the same scheme.

PARC did at one point run a SSTR on the 747 with Cargolux, 1500 hours was required to apply but previous jet time was not required.
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