Type Rating - which type, where, why pay etc?

[nuclear weapon]

go for a 757 type rating

While your chances go up significantly with a type rating I think it goes up more with a 757 type rating as not many people tend to go for these. All those that I knew did it got jobs in weeks as they told me there is a shortage of them.
The only downsiode is that it is a bit more expensive than 737 or airbus with Astreus you do get 50 hrs on top with which you should be able to go to jet2, thomas cook and the rest of them even BA as long as your combined total hours is 500 or more with a type rating on one of thier aircrafts. If I had the money now thats what I'll do.
Good luck

[HighLow]

737-800 Type Rating Prep

Hi Guys and Girls,
i remember reading some months back that there is plenty of online material available on systems of both Airbus and Boeing.

As I am beginning the 738 TR in two months time, it would be great to get my head in the books now just to try and keep ahead of the game.

Can anyone remember the links for this online information, as a google search has not produced any results yet


King Regards
HighLow

[viciousviking]

737 Type Rating

Hi,

As I am considering getting a 737 rating, I am wondering if anyone has got any tips to where to go having in both quality and cost!

Thanks a lot for your help!

[EI321]

Im not an expert on this as I have not even applied for a pilot training course, but I know a TR on a 737 will cost you €25000+

P.S. I presume you know that you need the ATPL first?

[acuba 290]

try to get a offer from United in Denver, USA. I know that sometimes even flight to USA with United included if you do rating with company and they must be one of the cheapest to compare with prices in Europe

[oompa loompa]

Bond also do an A320 rating, though it doesn't include the 6 live landings. The info I have prices it at £14000+VAT.

I'd be interested in seeing where this thread goes as I was thinking of posting a similar one myself.

[boogie-nicey]

That seems very interesting Nuclear Weapon but 50 hrs really does seem very bog standard. Would any airline entertain a mere 50 hrs on type for a mid sized jet such as the 757, afterall there are many who claim you'd struggle to get a 737 gig with only a handful of hours on type.

I'm not saying that we need to overkill the 'extra hours' and go for the juicy 500hrs on type but surely a little more should get you noticed as a viable candidate? Would be very interested to hear your answer on this as the 757 is a favourite of mine but the somewhat prohibitive TR cost is forcing me to 737...

[manuelvi]

Originally Posted by SinBin

Done a search found nothing

GECAT Pilot Program on A320

or

Alteon/ My Travel A320 TR on A320 with 150 hours on type with a chance of a job but no guarantees

one is £11K more than the other

Which would you chose?

I'd be interested to hear views from people who've done these schemes

Storm aviation has a TR+300 HRS offer
Twinair has a TR+ Line T in MYAIR (Italian Airline)
CAE offers TR with Vueling possible employment (call CAE Madrid)
PArc Aviation offers TR and it's known to plece theyr candidates
Sigmar aviation also offers TR and is known to offer placement after the course


Hope i helped you
Cheers

[PaulW]

From what I gather from my friends and class mates who have passed through GECAT, GECAT have a 100% placement record; providing you pass the course, that bit is up to you. They have been placed with an airline either before they start or within 2 -6 months. It is the only company I would seriously consider doing a type rating with, but thats because I know what the job prospects are after completing the course from my friends experiences, go with the company you know. I start an a320 type rating with GECAT in February.
My friends and class mates now work for, bmi, Thomas Cook, Easy Jet, Air Malta.
Current price is £500 for a sim assessment. 200 pounds refundable on payment for type rating.
Type rating £17800 two weeks ground school and 11 4 hours sim slots (might be 11 3 hour slots cant remember)
Base training £4800 but often paid for by airline.
And you start with the airlines in question with no bond and DEP money.

I don't think the 150 hours makes too much difference, its still not 500 hours. and Alteon/Mytravel your limited to that one airline.

[world]

Type ratings for old A/C

Is it possible to get type ratings for old aircrafts such as 707, DC8.....?

[Vanpilot]

Poll...Do you have a type rating you have paid for...Are you flying that Plane???yes/

What type rating did you get?

Did you get a job because of your type rating?

[scroggs]

Almost certainly, but why?
Scroggs

[EchoMike]

old A/C type ratings

I knew a pilot who had something like 30,000+ hours (I saw his logbooks) before he died (of cancer, at 77), and he had type ratings for everything you could imagine. Over 100 when he last counted.

He complained that if he wanted to keep them all current, he would do nothing each year but take checkride after checkride, and would have no time to fly for revenue. At one time he owned a DC-7F (which was entered by an aluminum extension ladder, and secured by a padlock and hasp on the door!) which he had bought sans engines from a farmer's field for $10,000 - and once the farmer had the money, he advised that the rent was $2,000 a month and kindly getcher blankety blank aeroplane outta my dang field . . . took him eight months, but he did it. He offered me a tour of the airplane, but it wasn't airworthy, so he never did offer me a ride (which was a great relief to me.)

Big, old transport aircraft make me nervous. They have moved to the bottom of the revenue food chain because they are uneconomical to operate (fuel and maintenance hogs), and the type of marginal operators that buy them are the least able to afford the maintenance. That's a bad combination, especially if said operators are in part of the world where you can't get good maintenance even if you can afford it.

My opinion is that unless you have a solid job offer flying one of these "classic" airliners (pronounced "dinosaur"), you might want to spend your money on type ratings for new, safe, well maintained airplanes.


Best Regards,

Echo Mike

[world]

Originally Posted by EchoMike

afford it.

My opinion is that unless you have a solid job offer flying one of these "classic" airliners (pronounced "dinosaur"), you might want to spend your money on type ratings for new, safe, well maintained airplanes.

Echo Mike

Thats what I was thinking, historic flights....
Where could you get types for those old rare A/C?

[EchoMike]

Google shows a couple of hits for DC-3 type ratings at about $14,000 . . .

There's an AOPA article dating from 1994 saying the airplane costs $625 an hour to fly, figure at least twice that at today's fuel prices, maybe 3X.

EAA has a type rating program for some of these older airplanes as well - no prices shown, I think you need to bring your own B-17.

I think I'd first try to find someone who is operating one of the aircraft of interest, then ask them how to get a type rating in it. Example - Red Bull owns Franco's (I think) DC-6 and flies it to air shows - contact them, the airplane is magnificently restored.

You sure have picked an expensive hobby - wonder what a B-52 type rating costs if you're not having Uncle Sam pay for it ? (big grin)

Best Regards,

Echo Mike

[B200Drvr]

A trust I fly for in South Africa does T-6 Texan/ Harvard types, will set you back about £3000, but includes aero's. Pan-Am in Miami does 707 types and many airforces that fly the KC 135 use their sim for recurrent training.

[G-Dawg]

Carefull getting a B737 rating you will get nothing without time on type and i'm talking more like 300hrs plus, although 100 is better than nothing. There is far more opportunity on the A320, but again you need some time on type and i agree with an earlier post the 75/76 option with time would be a good one at the mo as they are desperate for guys on this. I did a 73 type, am flying now but its taken a long time and some lucky breaks to get here...Gecat hasn't actually got a 100% track record, but it is very good indeed at placing and have also got a friend with BMI straight from Gecat....Its the good old debate, that will go on for ever me thinks

ps no a guy who did astreus 75 with 100hrs got a job straight away, only a couple of months ago....worth considering.

[LeChuck]

Storm A320 Cadet Scheme.

Hello all,

I’ve been searching the forum for info on the Storm A320 Scheme but didn’t found what I was looking for.

Anyone knows how often do the assessment day takes place? I would imagine monthly or every two months, just guessing. And, do they accept low time pilots? Because currently the website states min 1000 hrs. TT, although I’ve heard that they may take you in with less than that. And last, but not least , what about their placement record?

Many thanks for the replies.

[F.O. 737-800]

Going back to the general theme of this thread, currently the best place to get a type rating is either as a RyanAir cadet or CTC. The other schemes such as Alteon/My Travel, Bond, Storm ect. are out to get your money and quite often are not providing a quality product to the students. Also the solid job offers which come from these schemes are generally few and far between.

However if you are considering paying for a type rating without an offer of a job i would seriously recommend an A320 rating above all others unless you are willing to pay for a Turbo Prop rating i.e Saab 340 ect.

These are just my opinions which i have formed over the last year since i was in a position where i had finished my training and was looking for that first job.

Cheers

[Amin]

Type Rating question

hi I have a question regarding MD 80 Type Rating. I have been offered a job in Middle East flying MD 80. I'm holding an FAA license. The airline is going to offer me a type rating. They have their own Type Rating Training Organisation and off course I have to pay for it . My question to you guys is that can I do the type rating with my FAA license, or do I need to convert my license to that contry to be able to go throug the type rating course.

I'm getting mixed information regarding this issue. Some say it is OK and some say it is not Ok.

The company operate under ICAO

Any airline captains or FO that can help I would be grateful.
I have posted this in the middle eastern forum too.

Thank you, Amin