Type rating - Embraer 120/145/170/190?
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A320 or EMB 135/145
Jus t a short comment.
World is full of A320 pilots and industry is using these poor pilots paying peanuts for them.
I have flown A320 all round about some 1900 hrs and only having peanuts as the A320 like B737 are low cost horses (wizz,onur,interexpress,nikilauda endless story) and there are coming more and more A320 pilots ready to fly for food thru CAE/vueling and catair and so on....
I have flown Emb 145 before and got an offer from one executive private operator to fly legacy having 10,000 euros, ten days on and ten days off.
Naturally my refreshment training was paid by company, not like in Airbus low cost business where you can have best contract with agencies for 6 months. For sure you pay your PC at least once per year.
World is full of A320 pilots and industry is using these poor pilots paying peanuts for them.
I have flown A320 all round about some 1900 hrs and only having peanuts as the A320 like B737 are low cost horses (wizz,onur,interexpress,nikilauda endless story) and there are coming more and more A320 pilots ready to fly for food thru CAE/vueling and catair and so on....
I have flown Emb 145 before and got an offer from one executive private operator to fly legacy having 10,000 euros, ten days on and ten days off.
Naturally my refreshment training was paid by company, not like in Airbus low cost business where you can have best contract with agencies for 6 months. For sure you pay your PC at least once per year.
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Boogie,
Was there a phone number or email address?
I,m sure it would be impossible to put all the info for every individual case on any web site so why not call up and explain exactly what you need?
Yes I do work for them.
Was there a phone number or email address?
I,m sure it would be impossible to put all the info for every individual case on any web site so why not call up and explain exactly what you need?
Yes I do work for them.
Emb-120 flightsafety rating
Has anyone done the Flightsafety Emb120 rating in Paris? What's the schedule like?
Or some general FSI@Paris experience in a few words.. about the instructors and such.
Thanks!
Or some general FSI@Paris experience in a few words.. about the instructors and such.
Thanks!
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FSI
Hello Dufo,
I havn't done a type rating but the MCC on the EMB120 at FSI. There is a very good atmosphere, nice people, everything is new, good conditions to study, and a free "petit déjeuner" every morning with "croissants, pains aux chocolats" and juice
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My instructor was very professional and nice (ex french army pilot). However I don't know if he's able to teach in English
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You know, it is very hard for us (frenchy) to learn that language
me the first
Have fun with your TR
ciao
I havn't done a type rating but the MCC on the EMB120 at FSI. There is a very good atmosphere, nice people, everything is new, good conditions to study, and a free "petit déjeuner" every morning with "croissants, pains aux chocolats" and juice
.My instructor was very professional and nice (ex french army pilot). However I don't know if he's able to teach in English
.You know, it is very hard for us (frenchy) to learn that language
me the first
Have fun with your TR
ciao
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Don't waste your time with an EMB TR. If you've got the cash go & get yourself TR on something from Seattle or Toulouse. You will get a good job so much quicker & then the world is your oyster.
IMHO, Once you start flying the Samba sheds - you tend to get pidgeonholled as "One of them" - and you don't want that...do you?
Good luck
HPC
IMHO, Once you start flying the Samba sheds - you tend to get pidgeonholled as "One of them" - and you don't want that...do you?
Good luck
HPC
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Whilst I agree with your advice on preferred type ratings, your final comment ensures that you live up to your name - cock.
I fly the 145, and yet have had no problem securing a job on the heaviest Boeing. The countless other guys I used to fly with on the ERJ who now fly heavy metal for some of the world's best airlines also shoot your nonsensical comment up the rectum.
Whilst I agree with your advice on preferred type ratings, your final comment ensures that you live up to your name - cock.
I fly the 145, and yet have had no problem securing a job on the heaviest Boeing. The countless other guys I used to fly with on the ERJ who now fly heavy metal for some of the world's best airlines also shoot your nonsensical comment up the rectum.
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The country where I work is 99% populated by 737's (NG's),777's, 747's & A319/20/21/30/40's - There is however, one EMB operator - on the verge of going bust - whose pilots are not being so readily taken onto the 737's etc.. due to the '"Lack of commonality & cost incurred in re - training them to that standard." This was mentioned to me at a small meeting of chief pilots from various airlines, inc the CP of the EMB airline, who subsequently used to work for EMB as a test pilot. In his opinion, "Nice machine to fly, good to look at, but comes with a label." I asked him what he meant by that, and he went on to say that from his own, and EMB's research, they seemed to find that most of their pilots were not being offered work with other carriers, using the more common equipment, due to the abovementioned reasons.
A few years ago, I used to share an office with the Chief Examiner for Embraer. It was he who told me the very same words that you chose to shoot down - "You tend to get pidgeonholled as one of them."
Whilst I'm glad that you have moved up the Aviation ladder, & are doing well for yourself, there have been, & still are others in your position who are suffering due to the stigma laid down by the industry - not themselves.
Judging by the previous posts - 45,000 Euros for an E135/145 TR!! Even with today's very favourable exchange rate of 1.49 Euros to the GBP, you're still talking about GBP30,200. Now call me daft if you will, but I do think that sort of money to be finally endorsed with a "regional" in your licence is a wee bit expensive. I think for those prices today. you could probably rate yourself on a 777!!
I do hope this readresses my previous "Nonsensical Coment"
HPC
The country where I work is 99% populated by 737's (NG's),777's, 747's & A319/20/21/30/40's - There is however, one EMB operator - on the verge of going bust - whose pilots are not being so readily taken onto the 737's etc.. due to the '"Lack of commonality & cost incurred in re - training them to that standard." This was mentioned to me at a small meeting of chief pilots from various airlines, inc the CP of the EMB airline, who subsequently used to work for EMB as a test pilot. In his opinion, "Nice machine to fly, good to look at, but comes with a label." I asked him what he meant by that, and he went on to say that from his own, and EMB's research, they seemed to find that most of their pilots were not being offered work with other carriers, using the more common equipment, due to the abovementioned reasons.
A few years ago, I used to share an office with the Chief Examiner for Embraer. It was he who told me the very same words that you chose to shoot down - "You tend to get pidgeonholled as one of them."
Whilst I'm glad that you have moved up the Aviation ladder, & are doing well for yourself, there have been, & still are others in your position who are suffering due to the stigma laid down by the industry - not themselves.
Judging by the previous posts - 45,000 Euros for an E135/145 TR!! Even with today's very favourable exchange rate of 1.49 Euros to the GBP, you're still talking about GBP30,200. Now call me daft if you will, but I do think that sort of money to be finally endorsed with a "regional" in your licence is a wee bit expensive. I think for those prices today. you could probably rate yourself on a 777!!
I do hope this readresses my previous "Nonsensical Coment"
HPC
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A well reasoned explanation. It is a shame you didn't put all that down the first time. Mentioning such a 'label' without explaining it serves only to continue the spread of it...
I fly in the UK. There are two main ERJ operators and they are suffering from crewing problems as they cannot stem the flow of pilots to other airlines with bigger and brighter machinery. The rating hasn't held anyone back, quite the contrary.
However, I agree that to spend your own dosh on an ERJ type rating at the prices mentioned is pure folly. A 737 rating is cheaper and there are more operators to target.
G-LOST
A well reasoned explanation. It is a shame you didn't put all that down the first time. Mentioning such a 'label' without explaining it serves only to continue the spread of it...
I fly in the UK. There are two main ERJ operators and they are suffering from crewing problems as they cannot stem the flow of pilots to other airlines with bigger and brighter machinery. The rating hasn't held anyone back, quite the contrary.
However, I agree that to spend your own dosh on an ERJ type rating at the prices mentioned is pure folly. A 737 rating is cheaper and there are more operators to target.
G-LOST
This was a very pleasing experience - with help from ground instructor mr. Lelong, FMS instructor mr. M'couropa, sim instructor Strausz and examiner mr. Martin I passed my skill test in the early morning hours on Saturday.
Thank you Flight Safety!
Thank you Flight Safety!
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E170/190 sims
For E-jet sims in europe i'd suggest you contact Swiss Aviation Training.
(to state the obvious.... keep in mind that since Air France, KLM, Lufthansa/Swiss are all getting new E-Jet fleets, the number of available sims will be increasing fairly soon also.)
There is also GECAT with their London Gatwick based E170 sim.
I think Finnair have a sim too, They borrowed the Cirrus E170 while they were training crews for its E170
(to state the obvious.... keep in mind that since Air France, KLM, Lufthansa/Swiss are all getting new E-Jet fleets, the number of available sims will be increasing fairly soon also.)
There is also GECAT with their London Gatwick based E170 sim.
I think Finnair have a sim too, They borrowed the Cirrus E170 while they were training crews for its E170
