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Anyone had any experience with this FTO?? www.randhem.com seems to offer B737 and A320 type ratings at exceptional rates.
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Im thinking about a 737 rating with Randhem Aviation and would be grateful if any guys/gals have any information or experiences of them??
Also do you know if they are recognised by the UK CAA? I have sent the CAA an email to find this out but who knows how long they will take.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers
Also do you know if they are recognised by the UK CAA? I have sent the CAA an email to find this out but who knows how long they will take.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Randhem Aviation
B 737 rating= 14'400 EUR
Base Training= 5'000 EUR
A320 rating= 16'500 EUR
Base Training= 7'450 EUR
Accomodation and examination fee included.
Teekay
Base Training= 5'000 EUR
A320 rating= 16'500 EUR
Base Training= 7'450 EUR
Accomodation and examination fee included.
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Re: Randhem Aviation
hi, guys. ìt`s my first time posting so maby i forget to tell you something,in that case ask.
i was in the first group wich made a TR for A320 with Randhem aviation.
the course take place in minneapolis. one week of theory (althoug you have to go there already knowing because it`s just a review and preparation for the oral) then you take the sim training in the northwest airlines training center.
my impression is that they are doing this very professionaly and personally i think there aren`t many other places where you can get such a good training.
Base check is done in slovenis with Adria airways, at least i did it.
one thing i want to tell you, the sim training are done with northwest procedures and they differs lightly from airbus standart procedures. that`s why between the training and base check you`d better study the normal ones.
and the last thing is that i finished in october and i still waiting for some papers to get my rating endorsement, they must be here in some days. other guys who were with us already have their endorsement due to that their CAA do not require that amount of document`s.
to conclude i`ll tell you that if you seriosly thinking in getting a TR you must consider not only for price( which is quite lower than oters) but the quality( excelent). personally i don`t regret it at all.
i was in the first group wich made a TR for A320 with Randhem aviation.
the course take place in minneapolis. one week of theory (althoug you have to go there already knowing because it`s just a review and preparation for the oral) then you take the sim training in the northwest airlines training center.
my impression is that they are doing this very professionaly and personally i think there aren`t many other places where you can get such a good training.
Base check is done in slovenis with Adria airways, at least i did it.
one thing i want to tell you, the sim training are done with northwest procedures and they differs lightly from airbus standart procedures. that`s why between the training and base check you`d better study the normal ones.
and the last thing is that i finished in october and i still waiting for some papers to get my rating endorsement, they must be here in some days. other guys who were with us already have their endorsement due to that their CAA do not require that amount of document`s.
to conclude i`ll tell you that if you seriosly thinking in getting a TR you must consider not only for price( which is quite lower than oters) but the quality( excelent). personally i don`t regret it at all.
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Anyone doing 737 with Randhem?
Greetings All
I'm considering the purchase of a B737 type rating with Randhem in Miami. I would like to hear from anyone who has completed the course and has any comments on the matter.
Thanks in advance
Simon
I'm considering the purchase of a B737 type rating with Randhem in Miami. I would like to hear from anyone who has completed the course and has any comments on the matter.
Thanks in advance
Simon
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Im starting mine next month in Miami. Currently im waiting for the course material to arrive as you have to do alot of self study before you start the course.
If you do a search for randhem on pprune there have been a few threads on them recently.
Cheers 7500
If you do a search for randhem on pprune there have been a few threads on them recently.
Cheers 7500
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Hey.
I just wanted to hear if there is anyone who knows or have been at Randhem?
I would like hear about them, good as well bad !
I am thinking of taking thier A320 rating, so info about that would be appriciated.
Thank you
Jic
I just wanted to hear if there is anyone who knows or have been at Randhem?
I would like hear about them, good as well bad !
I am thinking of taking thier A320 rating, so info about that would be appriciated.
Thank you
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they are not TSA approved(if course given in the USA)...I lost my money.Stay away unless you can obtain a M1 visa.
Most of these schools do not issue M1-F1 visa for type ratings done in the USA.
the TSA requires an M1 visa before attending a type rating.
You can be turned down with a B2 visa (tourist).The tourist visa is NOT accepted for initial type rating.
WARNING:Some schools will give you an INS form telling you need a B2 visa. This form is NOT valid...
contact the TSA for VISA issues.
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Visa information
This section applies to aliens who are planning on receiving flight training in the United States.
The requirements for obtaining any visa are separate from the requirements of the TSA alien flight training rule.
According to INS regulations, Title 8 of the Code of Federal Regulations, Section 214.2(b)(7), any alien who is permitted to enter the United States on a B-1 or B-2 visitor's status visa is prohibited from enrolling in a course of study. Such an alien must an either obtain an F-1 or M-1 non-immigrant visa from a consular officer abroad and seek readmission to the United States, or apply for and obtain a change of status under section 248 of the Act and 8 CFR Part 248. The alien may not enroll in the course of study until the Service has admitted the alien as an F-1 or M-1 nonimmigrant or has approved the alien's application.
Taking flight training without an appropriate visa could be a violation of your immigration status and could result in your arrest and removal from the United States; therefore, it is important that you have a visa that permits you to take flight training in the United States. If you do not possess the correct visa, or if you have questions pertaining to your visa status or the appropriate visas for flight training, please contact your local Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services at 800/375-5283 or www.uscis.gov or the State Department Consular Affairs Office for assistance. The AFSP will deny flight training requests from candidates who are present in the United States illegally or who do not have an appropriate visa for flight training. Fees paid for denied applications are not refundable.
Most of these schools do not issue M1-F1 visa for type ratings done in the USA.
the TSA requires an M1 visa before attending a type rating.
You can be turned down with a B2 visa (tourist).The tourist visa is NOT accepted for initial type rating.
WARNING:Some schools will give you an INS form telling you need a B2 visa. This form is NOT valid...
contact the TSA for VISA issues.
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Visa information
This section applies to aliens who are planning on receiving flight training in the United States.
The requirements for obtaining any visa are separate from the requirements of the TSA alien flight training rule.
According to INS regulations, Title 8 of the Code of Federal Regulations, Section 214.2(b)(7), any alien who is permitted to enter the United States on a B-1 or B-2 visitor's status visa is prohibited from enrolling in a course of study. Such an alien must an either obtain an F-1 or M-1 non-immigrant visa from a consular officer abroad and seek readmission to the United States, or apply for and obtain a change of status under section 248 of the Act and 8 CFR Part 248. The alien may not enroll in the course of study until the Service has admitted the alien as an F-1 or M-1 nonimmigrant or has approved the alien's application.
Taking flight training without an appropriate visa could be a violation of your immigration status and could result in your arrest and removal from the United States; therefore, it is important that you have a visa that permits you to take flight training in the United States. If you do not possess the correct visa, or if you have questions pertaining to your visa status or the appropriate visas for flight training, please contact your local Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services at 800/375-5283 or www.uscis.gov or the State Department Consular Affairs Office for assistance. The AFSP will deny flight training requests from candidates who are present in the United States illegally or who do not have an appropriate visa for flight training. Fees paid for denied applications are not refundable.
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I don't have any personal experience from Randhem but from what I've heard from personal friends the quality of the training is good and they are straight forward. No severe Bull**** about 'promising' jobs....
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Mercenar pilot,
I agree wit you, it is all BS.
well, it is printed black on white that an M1 visa is required. Write to the TSA, and tell them their procedures are BS!
and have fun at the custom when they will send you back home if they find out you are not coming as a tourist but as a student...
"any alien who is permitted to enter the United States on a B-1 or B-2 visitor's status visa is prohibited from enrolling in a course of study. Such an alien must an either obtain an F-1 or M-1 non-immigrant visa"
I agree wit you, it is all BS.
well, it is printed black on white that an M1 visa is required. Write to the TSA, and tell them their procedures are BS!
and have fun at the custom when they will send you back home if they find out you are not coming as a tourist but as a student..."any alien who is permitted to enter the United States on a B-1 or B-2 visitor's status visa is prohibited from enrolling in a course of study. Such an alien must an either obtain an F-1 or M-1 non-immigrant visa"
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again, Rhandem or Panam (type rating) are not approved for M1 (I-20)Visa .I do not see any text, which say a B2 visa is approved for a t/rating in the USA.
I did an application with them under a B2 visa, and the TSA has simply denied my application(I have copied/paste their answer).Panam sent me a form of (signed March 06 2001),explaining me I can come under a tourist visa. Apparently,they only accept commercial active pilots flying for an airline and who have some kind of agreements between airline-school.
If you have been approved by the TSA, under what visa? when did you apply?are you sent by an airline?
(I blame only the TSA and the Immigration to make everything complicated and expensive for students and TRTO )
"...This application was denied due to the fact you have a B1 Visa and are attempting to take flight lessons that are not part of a commercial aviation business lease agreement. Under the current AFSP policy, flight students who are not commercial pilots must obtain a M1 or F1 visa to take flight lessons in the U.S. If you wish to take flight lesson within the U.S., you will have to submit an application to a provider that is able to issue the I-20 which will allow for the issuance of a M or F visa. "
xxx xxx
Supervisory Special Agent
Department of Homeland Security/TSA
Office of Transportation Threat Assessment and Credentialing
Alien Flight Student Program
xxxx
I did an application with them under a B2 visa, and the TSA has simply denied my application(I have copied/paste their answer).Panam sent me a form of (signed March 06 2001),explaining me I can come under a tourist visa. Apparently,they only accept commercial active pilots flying for an airline and who have some kind of agreements between airline-school.
If you have been approved by the TSA, under what visa? when did you apply?are you sent by an airline?
(I blame only the TSA and the Immigration to make everything complicated and expensive for students and TRTO )
"...This application was denied due to the fact you have a B1 Visa and are attempting to take flight lessons that are not part of a commercial aviation business lease agreement. Under the current AFSP policy, flight students who are not commercial pilots must obtain a M1 or F1 visa to take flight lessons in the U.S. If you wish to take flight lesson within the U.S., you will have to submit an application to a provider that is able to issue the I-20 which will allow for the issuance of a M or F visa. "
xxx xxx
Supervisory Special Agent
Department of Homeland Security/TSA
Office of Transportation Threat Assessment and Credentialing
Alien Flight Student Program
xxxx
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Originally Posted by dartagnan
Under the current AFSP policy, flight students who are not commercial pilots must obtain a M1 or F1 visa to take flight lessons in the [FONT=Arial][SIZE=2][FONT=Arial]U.S]
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Did my TR at Randhem and had a wonderful experience. I would highly recommend them. Yes, there is alot of work involved both prior to your arrival and, of course during the training program. I have to again thank both Mike Randhem, the instructors and mgt at PanAm. All did a fabulous job. Yes, I'm currently employed flying the 737-300/500/700.
PS: I can't speak on the visa issue but I do know that PanAm officials will in fact, NOT, let you into their simulators until there is TSA approval.
PS: I can't speak on the visa issue but I do know that PanAm officials will in fact, NOT, let you into their simulators until there is TSA approval.
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Tourist Visa – 90 days
As long as you already have a pilot license and only wish to rent an airplane or take a currency check this is the easiest visa to enter the country. For all European countries it is done by filling out a form on the airplane flying over. This together with documentation that you will leave the country within 90 days (ex. your return ticket) gets you in. You cannot undergo flight training or obtain a pilot license or rating on a tourist visa. And after September 11th 2001 the FAA now forwards your information to the INS (Immigration and Naturalization Services) to makes sure you are legal before issuing a license.
http://www.aviationcareerguide.com/student_visas.asp
BTW, if you have received an INS form explaining to come and study under a B2 visa...it is not longer valid, because the INS(the Office) does not exist anymore!!!!
As long as you already have a pilot license and only wish to rent an airplane or take a currency check this is the easiest visa to enter the country. For all European countries it is done by filling out a form on the airplane flying over. This together with documentation that you will leave the country within 90 days (ex. your return ticket) gets you in. You cannot undergo flight training or obtain a pilot license or rating on a tourist visa. And after September 11th 2001 the FAA now forwards your information to the INS (Immigration and Naturalization Services) to makes sure you are legal before issuing a license.
http://www.aviationcareerguide.com/student_visas.asp
BTW, if you have received an INS form explaining to come and study under a B2 visa...it is not longer valid, because the INS(the Office) does not exist anymore!!!!
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