Flying Training in New Zealand

[AerocatS2A]

I am glad they've made taxpayer loans available. When I was learning in NZ I used to laugh at the students whowere complaining about how much debt they were getting into - I would've given my left testy to be given the opportunity to get into some debt!

If they're requiring that it be part of an "aviation degree" though, then it seems they may have missed the point somewhat.

[djmaani]

Hi There,

Guys, I wanted to know if Nelson Aviation College in Motueka, New Zea Land is having a good reputation in the airlines. I am going to take Professional Pilot course there. So please help!
Guys who know anything about this college please share your information here. It will be appreciated.

Regards.

[AerocatS2A]

It is "New Zealand". Anyway, as far as I'm aware, airlines don't care where you learnt to fly as long as you have the minimum experience and the personality they want. If I was you, I would select a flying school that you are happy with for personal reasons (price, lifestyle, personal attention etc,) and not worry too much about what the airlines think.

Also, you may get more responses by asking a moderator to move this thread to the Dununder and Godzone forums.

[djmaani]

Thanx for your reply Aerocat.
I got one more question here.
After i complete the Professional Pilot course, who would employ me? or how can i get the experience required to join an Airline?

[AerocatS2A]

It depends on where you want to fly. If you intend staying in NZ or going to Australia then you will find that you are at the bottom of a heap of barely qualified commercial pilots. You will probably have to do some single engine VFR scenic work followed by some twin piston engine charter, then maybe turbo-props in a regional airline. This may take several years.

On the other hand, the situation is different in other countries. Europe seems to have airlines that will employ low time pilots.

[djmaani]

Originally Posted by AerocatS2A

If you intend staying in NZ or going to Australia then you will find that you are at the bottom of a heap of barely qualified commercial pilots. You will probably have to do some single engine VFR scenic work followed by some twin piston engine charter, then maybe turbo-props in a regional airline. This may take several years.
On the other hand, the situation is different in other countries. Europe seems to have airlines that will employ low time pilots.

Thanx again,
but isn't it possible that an Airline recruit a CPL holder without any experience or just after he is qualified?
My uncle is a Captain in GulfAir, he said that soon after i finish my training, Gulf Air may recruit.
Do u think that this is possible?

[AerocatS2A]

I can only speak for the NZ and Australian airlines and tell you that it won't happen here. As I said above though, I gather that some overseas airlines do hire low time pilots, but I know nothing about them, someone else will have to give details on them.

Your Uncle should be able to tell you what the requirements are for entry in to GulfAir.

[djmaani]

thanx dude!

wat r u doin now a days?

[AerocatS2A]

Flying Dash 8s here in Australia. See, I've been flying for over 10 years and am only halfway there. But then I've been careful to enjoy the different flying I've done as I've progressed, and am not as motivated to get the Big Jet Job the way some others are.

[pheeel]

I got a NZ PPL(A) with Jackie Frame at Hanmer Air in July last year. A small set up but I had a great time and would recommend it to anyone.
You can quite happily fly in the UK in any aircraft that are on your NZ licence with certain restrictions - day, only in UK airspace etc. check out lasors. For example I am rated on C172s and supercubs so can fly these aircraft in the UK.
As for converting, it's simple: less than 100 hours total time you have to take all the theory exams (including RT and practical), a skills test and get a JAA medical. With more than 100 hours I believe it's just Air Law and Procedures, Human limitations (for some reason, never understood that), and obviously RT and practical. And a skills test and get a JAA medical.
I think there may be somewhere in the North Island that does JAA PPLs, check out the back end of "Pilot".
As has been mentioned before on here, Irv Lee has an excellent site regarding conversions etc:
http://www.higherplane.flyer.co.uk/

hope that helps.

[BillieBob]

There is, at present, no training organisation in New Zealand approved to provide JAA PPL courses. CTC in Hamilton are approved by the UK to provide courses for the JAA modular CPL(A), IR(A) and MEP but as far as I know, they train only their own students under the 'Wings' scheme and are not interested in taking on any third-party training.

[jd8]

SASKATOON9999 i have experience of both jaa and nzcaa licences so if you want to know where to train and conversion info pm me.

[jd8]

dijmaani

if you want to train in nz go to http://www.flighttraining.co.nz/
biggest school in nz and know a guy from bharain training there.

Good school with large fleet and good insturctors, plus it operates in an international airport and a parallel grass vector as well as the main runway. Well worth a look if you are coming to NZ.

[stockportonealpha]

fATPL in New Zealand?

Hi All,

I want to do an ab-initio course leading to my fATPL - I have spent a year or so in NZ before, and think it would be a great place to learn to fly (and cheaper than the UK)!

Which course/training centre do you think might be suitable? I would rather stick with one training provider! The problem is that I want to be as confident as possible in finding 'pilot' work once I return to the UK - are the British airlines going to be concerned that I have done my training in NZ?! How easy/expensive is it to convert the licence to JAA?!

And also out if interest, where do Air New Zealand recruit there lowhour cadet pilots from - do they have a preferred training partner in NZ?? i.e. perhaps in the same way that BA seem confident to take on a good amount of OAT integrated students in the UK!

Thanks for your help!!

[AerocatS2A]

Originally Posted by tom1981

And also out if interest, where do Air New Zealand recruit there lowhour cadet pilots from - do they have a preferred training partner in NZ?? i.e. perhaps in the same way that BA seem confident to take on a good amount of OAT integrated students in the UK!

Air New Zealand does not employ any low hour cadet pilots. The only operator in the region who does anything like that is Qantas with their own cadets.

[stockportonealpha]

Hi there!

Has anyone any experience of flight training (ATPL) in New Zealand. I am looking at the International Aviation Academy of New Zealand and wondering if anyone has any experience with them? Are there any Brits that have done one of their courses and are now flying commercially in the UK!?

http://www.flighttraining.co.nz/

Thanks for your help!

[captwannabe]

Do a search on this forum for New Zealand/IAANZ/etc. and a few results should be thrown up. Do a search on the Godzone and Dunnunda forums aswell. Lots more info there, and you'll get proper opinions from people who fly in NZ, and there are mixed opinions on many of the bigger FTOs there. There definitely were Irish and Brits who trained with them. Some of them returned to Europe and converted their licences while some loved NZ and stayed there.

[RITZER82]

I am very strongly looking at going to this academy in New Zealand as it is alot more cheaper and sounds like a respectful establishment. I have spoken to the senior flight instructor a chap called Jay and seems like a great guy. I am thinking of visiting Chritstchurch very soon with my family and see how the living environment is like out there. The only downside to this is it is thousands of miles away from home here in the UK. If you want to communicate privately I will give you my email address and maybe we could start together as I am looking out for a fellow Brit.

[Hamil000]

hi

newzealand maybe a great place, but if your planning to work in the UK as a pilot, you will have to convert your licence, and that will take you about 2 years and you may spend more than 50,000. but flight training is cheap you may spend about 22,000£, way cheap compared to any uk training school

but if iam not mistaken does newzealand offer a JAA COURSE INTERFRATED OR MOL

[Hamil000]

hi

newzealand maybe a great place, but if your planning to work in the UK as a pilot, you will have to convert your licence, and that will take you about 2 years and you may spend more than 50,000. but flight training is cheap you may spend about 22,000£, way cheap compared to any uk training school

but if iam not mistaken does newzealand offer a JAA COURSE INTERGRATED OR MOL