Wannabe a pilot! (And I'm too damn lazy to do a search)
PPRuNe Handmaiden
The true sponsorships don't exist any more. For more info look up CTC, Oxford (OATS) and the like. The Netjets Europe cadetship is opening again on Monday the 14th.
Cadetships are possible with easyJet, Monarch, Netjets Europe and so on.
Retirements is a furfy, age limits are increasing.
The contact lenses aren't a problem per se, however, your starting prescription might be. Check the CAA's website for the actual limits.
747s are being operated by BA and Virgin Atlantic to name a couple of British airlines. With Virgin, you'll need approx 2500 hours of medium jet (or Mil) time to get a look-in. BA, you can get in as a low houred pilot via OATS (maybe, to be confirmed) or after doing some time as a turboprop pilot or jet pilot.
Typical wage? Well, I started life in the UK as a Shorts 360 FO on £16,000 per annum. Instructors can earn more or less than this.
A Turboprop FO for an "airline" might earn about £20K where as a jet FO might earn maybe £26-28K per annum. Best check PPJN for more details.
If you hold a full ATPL the FO salary is better but that's for later.
Typical hours? Limited to 55 hours duty per week. The loco's will have you working as close to 900 "stick" hours per annum. (Actual duty will be higher). Depending on who you work for it could be all earlies one week, followed by lates the next. Or it could be a mix of the two.
The relaxed and comfy lifestyle doesn't really exist any more.
Cadetships are possible with easyJet, Monarch, Netjets Europe and so on.
Retirements is a furfy, age limits are increasing.
The contact lenses aren't a problem per se, however, your starting prescription might be. Check the CAA's website for the actual limits.
747s are being operated by BA and Virgin Atlantic to name a couple of British airlines. With Virgin, you'll need approx 2500 hours of medium jet (or Mil) time to get a look-in. BA, you can get in as a low houred pilot via OATS (maybe, to be confirmed) or after doing some time as a turboprop pilot or jet pilot.
Typical wage? Well, I started life in the UK as a Shorts 360 FO on £16,000 per annum. Instructors can earn more or less than this.
A Turboprop FO for an "airline" might earn about £20K where as a jet FO might earn maybe £26-28K per annum. Best check PPJN for more details.
If you hold a full ATPL the FO salary is better but that's for later.
Typical hours? Limited to 55 hours duty per week. The loco's will have you working as close to 900 "stick" hours per annum. (Actual duty will be higher). Depending on who you work for it could be all earlies one week, followed by lates the next. Or it could be a mix of the two.
The relaxed and comfy lifestyle doesn't really exist any more.
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LASORS 2007
Is the CAA bible with all the answers.
Bit heavy for the newbie - but it isn't quite as hard to fathom as it first looks.
Is the CAA bible with all the answers.
Bit heavy for the newbie - but it isn't quite as hard to fathom as it first looks.
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Becoming a pilot (Process: Good?)
Hello there. I am new here, and I live in Canada. I have logged 45 hours of flying time therefore i will get my PPL very soon. For 10+ years I've been dreaming to fly large jets for a living. This year I will be finishing high school then I will start college then university in Mechanical engineering in aeronautics, meanwhile i will be logging flying hours. Can a mechanical engineering degree help me to become an airline pilot more easily? My intentions are to fly either the Twin Otters for MAT( Maldivian Air Taxi) or for Ryanair that apparently haas a program for low hours pilots from 200 hours. Could you please tell me that after 5-6 years when ive finished my university degree and when i am with a bachelor's degree, how easily can i get a job with Ryanair with a self-sponsored training being Canadian? My ultimate goal is the B777 for Emirates.
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Hi A340x
If you do a search you will find load of threads on the further education versus flight training debate and you may find these useful. Having a background in Mech Engineering will certainly help with the exams but my personal view is that in the current recruiting climate the carriers you have mentioned wouldn't really mind if you have a degree or not. So with that in mind why not consider saving 5-6 years of your life and go do what you ultimately want to do, i.e pass your flying exams and get a poorly paid but hugely rewarding job flying something, then start moving your way up the food chain towards the jet that you aspire to.
To be responsible, I will add the caveat that obviously this is very limiting educationally and if for any reason you didn't achieve your aim you are stuck with far less marketable education in the broader sense.
Asking people to predict the market in six years time is all but impossible as it is changing all the time and at an unprecedented rate. Also, whilst it's great to have specific aspirations MAT, RYR, EI, be prepared to change your plans to take advantage of whatever opportunities come your way, but I'm certain that you would have worked that out for yourself.
Can't answer your questions regarding Canadians working in Europe but a quick internet search should answer that and you'd be very welcome.
Good luck, keep the faith and you will get what you deserve.
If you do a search you will find load of threads on the further education versus flight training debate and you may find these useful. Having a background in Mech Engineering will certainly help with the exams but my personal view is that in the current recruiting climate the carriers you have mentioned wouldn't really mind if you have a degree or not. So with that in mind why not consider saving 5-6 years of your life and go do what you ultimately want to do, i.e pass your flying exams and get a poorly paid but hugely rewarding job flying something, then start moving your way up the food chain towards the jet that you aspire to.
To be responsible, I will add the caveat that obviously this is very limiting educationally and if for any reason you didn't achieve your aim you are stuck with far less marketable education in the broader sense.
Asking people to predict the market in six years time is all but impossible as it is changing all the time and at an unprecedented rate. Also, whilst it's great to have specific aspirations MAT, RYR, EI, be prepared to change your plans to take advantage of whatever opportunities come your way, but I'm certain that you would have worked that out for yourself.
Can't answer your questions regarding Canadians working in Europe but a quick internet search should answer that and you'd be very welcome.
Good luck, keep the faith and you will get what you deserve.
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Egnatia Greece
Anybody had any knowledge or experience with Egnatia Aviation school in Greece. The program includes all modules required for a JAA fATPL licence such as PPL, Night Qualification, Hours Building, Multi-Engine Rating, ATPL Theory, CPL and IR and the cost is quite affordable.
Please advice coz I've to make decision very soon
Please advice coz I've to make decision very soon
