Expensive training in a big NAME or cheap at home to save money ?
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Expensive training in a big NAME or cheap at home to save money ?
Hello everybody . Do the big names really worth their money?
We have a flight school in Greece 5 kilometers from home (global aviation s.a.) doing intergrated course with Bristol GS with a cost of 45000 Euro plus 1000 for examinations fees plus 2000 the various things (uniform,case,maps,headsets,medical) thats a total of aproximately 48000 Euro. This doesnt include MCC course. So in total 55000 for a frozen Atpl with MCC and no accommodation needed. Plus living expenses 300-400 Euro per month (food at home!!!)
And then there is Intercockpit (Subsidiary of Luftahnsa Flight Training) with 65000 including MCC plus examination registry 1000 i.e. 66000 with everything included, plus 10.000 for accommodation in Germany. That means a total of 76000. Plus 800 Euro per month living expenses.
Some say that in a flight training school like Intercockpit (which is Lufthansa flight training) you will learn in a professional environment and train with the best full time hired instructor with airline experience and your training will be airline recognized and the most important you will learn the real flying job and not only the licence.My father is convinced with that.
Some others say go to a chaeper flight school (that means not experienced flight instructors with 200-500 hours in total) and keep as much money as possible for further licences and ratings (e.g. type rating,Jet Orientation Course,Flight Instructor etc) which means more hours and more flight experience with the same money.
I am a little bit confused because finally licence is the same. Any suggestion if big names really worth the money. Both course options are intergrated, so please everybody dont argue about modular or intergrated in this thread. Also both course seem to have no extra hidden costs except you fail in exams so dont bother arguing about possible hidden costs.
Also I dont listen to the job opportunities the promise because in the end if you dont deserve a job you will not get it even you finished NASA.
I would like some opinios if the big names worth the money from training perspective and if their training is as good as you pay or its just a nice marketing behind everything and the final product is the same.
Thanks in advance.
Rayden (the son of Dr. Ray)
We have a flight school in Greece 5 kilometers from home (global aviation s.a.) doing intergrated course with Bristol GS with a cost of 45000 Euro plus 1000 for examinations fees plus 2000 the various things (uniform,case,maps,headsets,medical) thats a total of aproximately 48000 Euro. This doesnt include MCC course. So in total 55000 for a frozen Atpl with MCC and no accommodation needed. Plus living expenses 300-400 Euro per month (food at home!!!)
And then there is Intercockpit (Subsidiary of Luftahnsa Flight Training) with 65000 including MCC plus examination registry 1000 i.e. 66000 with everything included, plus 10.000 for accommodation in Germany. That means a total of 76000. Plus 800 Euro per month living expenses.
Some say that in a flight training school like Intercockpit (which is Lufthansa flight training) you will learn in a professional environment and train with the best full time hired instructor with airline experience and your training will be airline recognized and the most important you will learn the real flying job and not only the licence.My father is convinced with that.
Some others say go to a chaeper flight school (that means not experienced flight instructors with 200-500 hours in total) and keep as much money as possible for further licences and ratings (e.g. type rating,Jet Orientation Course,Flight Instructor etc) which means more hours and more flight experience with the same money.
I am a little bit confused because finally licence is the same. Any suggestion if big names really worth the money. Both course options are intergrated, so please everybody dont argue about modular or intergrated in this thread. Also both course seem to have no extra hidden costs except you fail in exams so dont bother arguing about possible hidden costs.
Also I dont listen to the job opportunities the promise because in the end if you dont deserve a job you will not get it even you finished NASA.
I would like some opinios if the big names worth the money from training perspective and if their training is as good as you pay or its just a nice marketing behind everything and the final product is the same.
Thanks in advance.
Rayden (the son of Dr. Ray)
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Before you make a decision, at least go and visit Intercockpit to see if you like the place. With any school, whether the have a big name or small, it is important to see if they provide quality training by talking to staff and current students. Is there substance behind their marketing? If you want to become a professional, then in my opinion you should go to a professional school that will train you to high standards. Basically, visit the schools and decide which provides better training, and which suits you best.
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Going to a school with a big name is not going to guarentee you a job. So from that point save your money. However, I would not go to a cheaper school to save money with a view to buying a type rating thinking that a rating would guarentee you a job!
If you local school is good, well then fair enough, if you can complete the course in a reasonable time like you would with an AB-Initio school (aprox 14 months) then fair enough. You don't want to have to drag through a fATPL over 3 years etc. So get it done with in a reasonable amount of time without blowing a massive hole in your pocket like I did!
At the end of the day, you will get the same licence as another guy that went to a 'big school', and you may even do a better job than him. Finally yes it probably looks better on a CV, (a bigger well know school) but at the end of the day, if two guys go for a sim check and there's one job, they'll take the guy that does the better job on the day, not what school they went to.
On a final note Lufthansa seem quite nicely priced. FTE is now €93+ and NO job either. So how will you pay that off unemployed!
IR
If you local school is good, well then fair enough, if you can complete the course in a reasonable time like you would with an AB-Initio school (aprox 14 months) then fair enough. You don't want to have to drag through a fATPL over 3 years etc. So get it done with in a reasonable amount of time without blowing a massive hole in your pocket like I did!
At the end of the day, you will get the same licence as another guy that went to a 'big school', and you may even do a better job than him. Finally yes it probably looks better on a CV, (a bigger well know school) but at the end of the day, if two guys go for a sim check and there's one job, they'll take the guy that does the better job on the day, not what school they went to.
On a final note Lufthansa seem quite nicely priced. FTE is now €93+ and NO job either. So how will you pay that off unemployed!
IR
