Ari-Ben Aviator
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Hey Flying surfer,
seems that you know a little beat about them :-) ...Tj and Mike lol so have you been in Addison (Tx) or Fort pierce (Fl) i'm asking you that cause we may have some friends in commun.
See you man!
seems that you know a little beat about them :-) ...Tj and Mike lol so have you been in Addison (Tx) or Fort pierce (Fl) i'm asking you that cause we may have some friends in commun.
See you man!
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hi Dryermaker,
don't take it personnal man, if you look carefully i said durind 98 throught 99 not 3k and at this time the beautiful environment you've just discribed was a lot different... believe me!!! but anyway if you got what for you paid good for you, i'm hoping that more than 50% of Ari Ben Aviator's students are agree with you ... and after all things may be changed so ... good luck to all of you guys.
PS Does Pierre Lavial still there???
don't take it personnal man, if you look carefully i said durind 98 throught 99 not 3k and at this time the beautiful environment you've just discribed was a lot different... believe me!!! but anyway if you got what for you paid good for you, i'm hoping that more than 50% of Ari Ben Aviator's students are agree with you ... and after all things may be changed so ... good luck to all of you guys.
PS Does Pierre Lavial still there???
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Any New's On Ariben Aviator
Hi...
Just wanted to hear from anyone who might have som news on ariben aviator...
There have in the past years been both good and bad stories, but just wanted to hear from anyone....
Are thinking of doing their 200 hr. program and its alot of money SO!!!! feel fre to write me...
Thanks
Thomas
Just wanted to hear from anyone who might have som news on ariben aviator...
There have in the past years been both good and bad stories, but just wanted to hear from anyone....
Are thinking of doing their 200 hr. program and its alot of money SO!!!! feel fre to write me...
Thanks
Thomas
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Avoid them like the plague. They will promise whatever they think you want to hear to get you to come over and they know that once you have flown from Europe you are not really going to go back empty handed.
It is one of the cheapest multi places in the US but it is shared time ( not allowed under JAA rules) something they don't like to really tell you over the phone.
have a look at www.ilsapproach.com and do a search for Ari Ben it iwll only bring up bad things.
If you are after cheap flight time check out www.private2atp.com
Good luck
It is one of the cheapest multi places in the US but it is shared time ( not allowed under JAA rules) something they don't like to really tell you over the phone.
have a look at www.ilsapproach.com and do a search for Ari Ben it iwll only bring up bad things.
If you are after cheap flight time check out www.private2atp.com
Good luck
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I think there is always two sides to a story - I am at Ari Ben right now and I can't confirm that I've been treated badly. The reason I came here is to built lots of multi time and there are few places in the States that rival it for cheap hours. The planes might not be the newest, but they are maintained to a high standard and I have not yet missed a flight due to maintenance issues. Housing is also OK as they have just built ten new houses for their students.
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Hmmm
Well it's kind of hard to find out what to do here....
On one hand people say's it's ok and on the other it's quiet bad....
Well aint got much more sure what to do now....
Well
Thanks anyway and see you all up there
Thomas
On one hand people say's it's ok and on the other it's quiet bad....
Well aint got much more sure what to do now....
Well
Thanks anyway and see you all up there
Thomas
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Ari Ben Aviator
Does anyone have any experience with Ari Ben Aviator in Florida. Especially the 100 hour multi engine course.
Also I will be finishing my PPL soon and need to build hours before my CPL. I was thinking of getting mostly multi engine hours as i hope this will improve my prospects of getting a job at the after my CPL/IR. Has anyone else done this and would you recommend it.
Prophead.
Also I will be finishing my PPL soon and need to build hours before my CPL. I was thinking of getting mostly multi engine hours as i hope this will improve my prospects of getting a job at the after my CPL/IR. Has anyone else done this and would you recommend it.
Prophead.
Why do it if it's not fun?
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Prophead,
The 100-hours multi hour-building package at Aviator is all shared with another pilot - one of you logs P1, the other logs Safety Pilot. Under JARs, you can not log safety pilot time, therefore you will only be able to use those 50 hours during which you were P1 and at the controls towards any JAR license or rating.
FFF
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The 100-hours multi hour-building package at Aviator is all shared with another pilot - one of you logs P1, the other logs Safety Pilot. Under JARs, you can not log safety pilot time, therefore you will only be able to use those 50 hours during which you were P1 and at the controls towards any JAR license or rating.
FFF
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Prop head
I still think that it is very interresting. I am planning on doing that so tell me when you are thinking of going there. We might find an arrangment to share some costs, and hours.
Winch
I still think that it is very interresting. I am planning on doing that so tell me when you are thinking of going there. We might find an arrangment to share some costs, and hours.
Winch
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I still have around 10 hours to go to finish my PPL yet so i am just trying to do a bit of forward planning at the moment. Ill probably be looking around spring time hopefully and ill definately be interested in sharing costs. Even if i can only log 50 hours ill definately still enjoy the other 50.
I am trying to decide whether 50 hours multi will be better than 100 single which will be around the same price. Also i will only have a PPL so all flying would be VFR.
Is multi engine VFR flying worth much?
Prophead
I am trying to decide whether 50 hours multi will be better than 100 single which will be around the same price. Also i will only have a PPL so all flying would be VFR.
Is multi engine VFR flying worth much?
Prophead
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Seem to remember previous threads which suggested that this FTO operates their multi fleet on a 24 basis. Assuming this is the case there is a significant chance that the schedulers might have you up in the middle of the night flying your block. Might not be everyones cup of tea and worth considering.
Why do it if it's not fun?
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Aviator will only let you participate in this scheme if you have an FAA multi-engine IR, as far as I know, so I don't think it would be suitable for you from what you've just said about your experience. Contact them to confirm this, though, because I'm not certain.
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Is right on this, you do need multi/IR and 70tt on the twin before you can go off and hr/build.
I did it in March and yes they make all hr builders fly at night, they use the planes for training in the day, this means you are restricted to where you go.
You don’t get to see much off the sun and flying in a straight line for 6 hrs a night is hard on the ass. (Seats lumpy!!)
Cheers
AC
Is right on this, you do need multi/IR and 70tt on the twin before you can go off and hr/build.
I did it in March and yes they make all hr builders fly at night, they use the planes for training in the day, this means you are restricted to where you go.
You don’t get to see much off the sun and flying in a straight line for 6 hrs a night is hard on the ass. (Seats lumpy!!)
Cheers
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oh well. I thought it sounded too good to be true.
In that case i will be looking at going to the US to do some single engine hour building.
Do most schools ask for a minimum number of hours before you can go ans fly single engine VFR?
Thanks for the replies.
Prophead
In that case i will be looking at going to the US to do some single engine hour building.
Do most schools ask for a minimum number of hours before you can go ans fly single engine VFR?
Thanks for the replies.
Prophead
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Hi,
if you want to built hrs in California let me know ....
I'm glad to help. There are may others and you guys
could share expenses. I'm flying across Europe right
now, but will be back in the U.S. in a while.
When do you plan to come over?
Pls keep the "Backround Ck" and the time required
in mind (up to 60 days - usually less).
http://faa.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/faa....va=&p_faqid=76
Best,
JOERG
www.FerryPilot.de
if you want to built hrs in California let me know ....
I'm glad to help. There are may others and you guys
could share expenses. I'm flying across Europe right
now, but will be back in the U.S. in a while.
When do you plan to come over?
Pls keep the "Backround Ck" and the time required
in mind (up to 60 days - usually less).
http://faa.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/faa....va=&p_faqid=76
Best,
JOERG
www.FerryPilot.de
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Air academy new CAG in USA
prophead and other people that might be interested.
I found out that one of the belgium FTO (JAA), has a second school in the US that is only used for the belgium students to do hours building. they propose 89 hours that include 29 on Pa28 and 60 on PA 34 seneca!(2 of the hours on Pa28 are with an instructor, and 10 of the ones on Pa34 are also with an instructor).
The price of all this is 13000 dollars.
I think it s quite good, especially because the dollar is very weak at the moment.
You can build more hours for 54 dollars on Pa28, and 190 for Pa34 (if my calculations are right it makes a 100 pounds for 1 hour on Pa34)
The belgium people that did that seem to be happy about it, and the fto that runs this is very respectable. I might go t at the end of spring so if anyone is interested, PM me.
Winch
I found out that one of the belgium FTO (JAA), has a second school in the US that is only used for the belgium students to do hours building. they propose 89 hours that include 29 on Pa28 and 60 on PA 34 seneca!(2 of the hours on Pa28 are with an instructor, and 10 of the ones on Pa34 are also with an instructor).
The price of all this is 13000 dollars.
I think it s quite good, especially because the dollar is very weak at the moment.
You can build more hours for 54 dollars on Pa28, and 190 for Pa34 (if my calculations are right it makes a 100 pounds for 1 hour on Pa34)
The belgium people that did that seem to be happy about it, and the fto that runs this is very respectable. I might go t at the end of spring so if anyone is interested, PM me.
Winch
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Ari-Ben Aviator
Hi
I know that Ari-Ben Aviator have been spoken about before and I know all about the shared hours building ect ect......but has anyone been their recently and can give me an up to date account of the set up and what they liked and disliked ?
Also I would be interested to hear (on here or via PM) about their J1 visa scheme. Has anyone done it, thinking about it or on it at the moment ?
Answers on a postcard to this address !
Cheers
I know that Ari-Ben Aviator have been spoken about before and I know all about the shared hours building ect ect......but has anyone been their recently and can give me an up to date account of the set up and what they liked and disliked ?
Also I would be interested to hear (on here or via PM) about their J1 visa scheme. Has anyone done it, thinking about it or on it at the moment ?
Answers on a postcard to this address !
Cheers