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Approved PILAPT programs to buy....
Hello there
searched a little bit regarding programs available for similar aptitude tests. Their respective info say that are somehow similar to some particular test done by FTE, CTC, Oxford etc...
but is there a particular approved Pilapt programs from where one can buy and download?
Thanks for you attention
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searched a little bit regarding programs available for similar aptitude tests. Their respective info say that are somehow similar to some particular test done by FTE, CTC, Oxford etc...
but is there a particular approved Pilapt programs from where one can buy and download?
Thanks for you attention
Regards
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Well PilaptPrep will be the best if you are going to take the Pilapt tests, but i am not sure if it gives you a score. There are no approved ones as your not really meant to be practising these things. I think OAT use Compass, which is similar in parts, the parts where it is not similar are easy. I managed to get a go on a compass test, its easier that Pilapt. I had a few goes at Compass, got the same mark each time more or less, i only improved on the cross hair test, well the two moving dots.
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The thing about pilapt prep is that it only seems to give you 5 applications, while there are a lot more, for example, on ctc's pilapt tests.
The grid doesn't seem to be their, nor the crosshairs, or the counting/crosshairs/coloured shapes
basically, the 3 hardest aren't there!
Cockpitweb is a bit to pricey for me
The grid doesn't seem to be their, nor the crosshairs, or the counting/crosshairs/coloured shapes
basically, the 3 hardest aren't there!
Cockpitweb is a bit to pricey for me
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Grid is there but I believe there's no feedback implemented for it. It doesn't give you an indication of how good your doing. The others do.
As for the cross hairs test, I think anything other than THE original PILAPT Cross-Hair test is not worth practising on. Instead focus on your general hand-eye stuff.
As for the cross hairs test, I think anything other than THE original PILAPT Cross-Hair test is not worth practising on. Instead focus on your general hand-eye stuff.
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I meant the grid one, where you have to spot the shapes amongst a load of lines and other shapes. You have a few minutes for that but i don't remember it saying you get a better mark the quicker you do it, but i'm sure you would.
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Pilap Test Cdrom
Hi Everyone,
During conversation with a few guys who where on the assement day for Oxford.
I was told that it is possible to get the tests (computer based) on the web. Obviously im not looking for the excact tests but just something simular to keep my mind active before i go back to do them.
In the states they dont agree with them and they feel that flying skills can be learned! Which is something id like to think also, never the less i want to practice them.
Anyway, any help would be much appreciated.
Please post any web address or the like for links to the places i can buy on the web.
Cheer again and happy flying!
EIDW
During conversation with a few guys who where on the assement day for Oxford.
I was told that it is possible to get the tests (computer based) on the web. Obviously im not looking for the excact tests but just something simular to keep my mind active before i go back to do them.
In the states they dont agree with them and they feel that flying skills can be learned! Which is something id like to think also, never the less i want to practice them.
Anyway, any help would be much appreciated.
Please post any web address or the like for links to the places i can buy on the web.
Cheer again and happy flying!
EIDW
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I bought Pilapt-Prep last night too, has 5 out of the 7 tests that we do for the CTC assesment. There aren't quite the same as the real tests but were what I expected after reading their website and the posts on this board. There really is no reason why the programs couldn't give you results for all the tests, and why they couldnt have compiled more than one test in to another just like they do on the assesment at CTC however I am sure that would then defeat the purpose of the testing on the day because some people would have an unfair advantage after practising. And its probably a money making scheme anyway because they make the program for Aviation schools and its more than likely that its a condition not to let the same program be available to the public?
However I can already see some improvement which suggests that you could be an excellent pilot even if you failed CTC Phase 2 assesement. I really don't think its just having a natural ability. I also managed to run 2 programs at once so if you want to make things more complex, and improve your multi tasking skills trying doing the decreasing number task at the same time as the flag exercise! Gets quite confusing! Just make sure you time the starts in the right places!!
However I can already see some improvement which suggests that you could be an excellent pilot even if you failed CTC Phase 2 assesement. I really don't think its just having a natural ability. I also managed to run 2 programs at once so if you want to make things more complex, and improve your multi tasking skills trying doing the decreasing number task at the same time as the flag exercise! Gets quite confusing! Just make sure you time the starts in the right places!!
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I bought the cockpitweb ones... can anyone tell me how similar the "frames" (aka flying through boxes) is to the real thing? I'm really bad at it!! I can't seem to react in time, by the time I decide which way I need to go, it's too late. I'm wondering if it's to do with my joystick, I seem to need full deflection each way to move the box 
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Okay, bought the pilapt package - because a good pilot should know that practice is compulsary- and got the 5 main tests. Where do I get the software to test my ability to fly through boxes(!!?) and the other one that Female Wannabe was talking about?
I've asked this on the CTC string too but - does anyone know any of the combinations that CTC use so that I can simulate the tests a bit more accurately.
Also any of any time parameters etc. This would allow any of us that bought the software to put it to the most effective use.
I've asked this on the CTC string too but - does anyone know any of the combinations that CTC use so that I can simulate the tests a bit more accurately.
Also any of any time parameters etc. This would allow any of us that bought the software to put it to the most effective use.
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missing the point ?
I read up most of the posts on the thread and all of you seem to be led by the general opinion that pilapt tests and compass tests are only about how well you perform on them. Well ive done them both, (compass at OAT & pilapt for FTE), and i think some of you are really missing the point here. I remember how much the FTE staff emphasized that it is no reason to worry if on the first of the 3 runs (like it ususally is) on any of the tests you failed to perform well. The reason for usually having 3 runs is like they said to see if a candidate can learn from the mistakes he made on the previous runs and become better. What they are looking for really is your capacity to learn.
Now I am not saying that practising might boost your performance on these tests, im sure it will. But if you go do the tests and perform at a stable (the max u can achieve rate) which u achieved by doing a lot of preparation they are not going to see the process of learning in the results which they are looking for. Its better I think to go in without any practise and show them that you can go from scratch to achieving top scores in the short period of only 3 goes at the thing.
I did this and I am travelling to england tomorro for the GB airways / FTE scheme's phase 4 interview. So i guess i must have done ok. and I can assure you people i didnt get top runs on any of the tests on the first go but did improve my performance every run. I think that is what counts.
So hopefully this eases some of your minds out there and you can now go in to the tests more relaxed. Just go to the tests , be yourself, and do the best you can do, and you have nothing to worry about
That is my advice to you.
Now I am not saying that practising might boost your performance on these tests, im sure it will. But if you go do the tests and perform at a stable (the max u can achieve rate) which u achieved by doing a lot of preparation they are not going to see the process of learning in the results which they are looking for. Its better I think to go in without any practise and show them that you can go from scratch to achieving top scores in the short period of only 3 goes at the thing.
I did this and I am travelling to england tomorro for the GB airways / FTE scheme's phase 4 interview. So i guess i must have done ok. and I can assure you people i didnt get top runs on any of the tests on the first go but did improve my performance every run. I think that is what counts.
So hopefully this eases some of your minds out there and you can now go in to the tests more relaxed. Just go to the tests , be yourself, and do the best you can do, and you have nothing to worry about
That is my advice to you.
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I agree with you Kazmik and i got through to phase 4 but i pulled out of the scheme to to gaining a place at CTC.
For the numerical reasoning, maths tests etc you have to practice. I have not used a calulator or done these types of maths for more than 5 years after leaving university so i bought the numeracy thing from cockpitweb and practiced. This served me in both assessments. They helped me get in the right frame of mind. Also i purcahsed the apptitude tests and practised like hell and i was 8,9,9 on the crosshairs and 10, 10, 10 on the flying through boxes that day. Man with the hands was very easy after i used the software. All i needed was 1 sec to decifer which hand was wot. I probably would not have had the same result if it was the first time i was seeing these tests if i did not practice.
On crosshairs if you see a person with 2, 5, 8 or 9, 10, 10 who would you pick?
Remember its a combination of the interview, apptitude and pilapt!
By the way my dad is a pilot for a well known british airline for 30 years and i sat him down and asked him to do the tests and lets just say his results were pooo.
good luck...
For the numerical reasoning, maths tests etc you have to practice. I have not used a calulator or done these types of maths for more than 5 years after leaving university so i bought the numeracy thing from cockpitweb and practiced. This served me in both assessments. They helped me get in the right frame of mind. Also i purcahsed the apptitude tests and practised like hell and i was 8,9,9 on the crosshairs and 10, 10, 10 on the flying through boxes that day. Man with the hands was very easy after i used the software. All i needed was 1 sec to decifer which hand was wot. I probably would not have had the same result if it was the first time i was seeing these tests if i did not practice.
On crosshairs if you see a person with 2, 5, 8 or 9, 10, 10 who would you pick?
Remember its a combination of the interview, apptitude and pilapt!
By the way my dad is a pilot for a well known british airline for 30 years and i sat him down and asked him to do the tests and lets just say his results were pooo.
good luck...
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Wouldn't it be lovely though - if you knew what was coming and could take some action to make sure it wasn't a surprise. You know, take the edge off your anxiety at being faced with a difficult situation and thus perform/improve, with slightly smalller sweat patches under your arms. 
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Pilapt Deviation Indicator Test....
Hey All
Can anyone who has taken this test recently remember if you keep the cross bar centred by moving the joystick in the direction of the deflection or the opposite direction ie do you....
a. move right to correct a cross hair movement to the right or
b. move left to correct a cross hair movement to the right?
Thanks for your help! NJP
Can anyone who has taken this test recently remember if you keep the cross bar centred by moving the joystick in the direction of the deflection or the opposite direction ie do you....
a. move right to correct a cross hair movement to the right or
b. move left to correct a cross hair movement to the right?
Thanks for your help! NJP
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I can't remember - but I do remember a thread in which someone asked the same question resulting in pages of discussion and conflicting answers. You might find that if you search.
Hope that helps!
Hope that helps!