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Old 22nd Jul 2005, 20:19
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i passed them all about 4 years ago, but i hated mass & balance.

i just did not like the calculations and therefore did not spend much time on it, and you know what happens then, you fail it and have to spend even more time on it!

mass & balance....what a horrible subject!
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Old 23rd Jul 2005, 00:12
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Cool

For me it was MET and POF. I liked both subjects (kind off!!), but found them really hard to pass. It was a great feeling when the results came through and I had got them, still cant belive it!!
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Old 24th Jul 2005, 06:33
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Definitely Gen Nav. The only one with serious time pressure.
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Old 24th Jul 2005, 12:12
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Hardest Exams

Hi,

For me the I though Met would be hard but I used the PGT feedback questions and found Met to be easier.

Gen Nav, Flight Planning and Law which I have filed twice, 72 & 74%.

Anyone have any tips for the above.

Thanks
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Old 24th Jul 2005, 14:31
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looking back at it(and this is such a nice place to be...
i think the trickiest subjects are Met and Air Law
I had to re-sit instruments twice, but that was more down to poor preparation and complacency on my part than anything.
i don't think that it is a difficult subject-I got 73% in my first two sittings!! twasn't nice...

i think the other subjects have a rhyme and reason to them. There is logic behind gen nav, mass and balance, flight planning etc...but i found with met and air law, there was masses and masses of information to trawl through and a lot of it esp. in air law was contradictory to what we were being taught in ops procedures...i have to be honest and say that after doing these two subjects, i am not really any the wiser for it because of the volume of information and bascially that it was a huge pain in the tits to get through.
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Old 24th Jul 2005, 14:56
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For me, the hardest subjects to prepare for were Op's and Law, simply because there seemed to be a 1001 seperate facts to learn/memorise. However, those subjects that involved the use of numbers i.e M+B, GNAV and Flight Planning, I found very easy, which I fail to understand as to why people seem scared of these subjects, especially GNAV. One thing I noticed whilst doing the groundschool / studying was that people just gave up on GNAV and decided that it was too difficult without actually sitting down and attempting the feedback. There really is'nt much to it beyond memorising a few formula and getting to grips with the wizz-wheel. Practice, practice and practice as they say.

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Old 24th Jul 2005, 18:56
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I thought Perf & PoF were tough, however I did pass them both first time (75% only), and I did fail others, down to going too fast and not fully understanding the basics first, once I did that it all came togeather, Thankfully!
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Old 24th Jul 2005, 20:23
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Hey All,

Im in the middle of my study at the moment and i have to say i find PoF and instrument the hardest. Met can also be difficult but it is just a matter of getting the head down and studying!!

Gud Luck
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Old 24th Jul 2005, 20:36
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Performance for me!


But dont forget if you havent sat any yet....goes for comms aswell they maybe easy but with fewer questions on the paper you cant afford to get many wrong so dont think comms is easy - do some study for it or you will fail!!!!!
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Old 24th Jul 2005, 20:51
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Hi folks,
Sorry for taking this thread slightly sideways,but does anybody have any clue as to what percentage of people pass their atpls first time? I had to re-take 4 but lots of people i speak to got them all straight away.Are they telling porkies or am i just thick?

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Old 24th Jul 2005, 21:00
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PP, have a look at;
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/175/UK%20JAR-FCL%20ATPL(A).pdf

I agree with Jinkster, I got 83% on IFR which means that I could just afford to have one more question wrong.

I found M&B and GNAV relatively easy while I fear meteorology and POF which are still to come. I guess that it is related to my lack of interest in physics.
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Old 25th Jul 2005, 10:42
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Although only a small part of one subject, my nemesis was Electrics. Ended up getting 70 first time in AGK because the CAA decided to throw in 3 times the usual number of Electrics questions.

Also, I must admit that despite passing subjects such as Radio Nav, Instruments and Met first time, this was primarily because I managed to remember the feedback and not because of some inherent understanding of the material. I think the current exam process is flawed.
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Old 25th Jul 2005, 10:48
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You would say that you Phantom! You failed it!! you should spend less time down Belushi's with Adrian.... The process is beautiful. Play the game my friend....

Hey, will you need me for Flight Planning this week - i scored a cool 96% in that one - don't ask me how!!
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Old 25th Jul 2005, 10:51
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you still didn't manage any 100s you feedback phantom!
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Old 25th Jul 2005, 10:51
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Stop perving on here and get back to revising for your resits!
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Old 25th Jul 2005, 11:01
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not a bad suggestion, these flight Planning graphs are wrecking my head! any grinds available? Listening to your scanner in the garden?
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Old 26th Jul 2005, 12:04
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Current stats say Gen Nav and Met are hardest, Performance has it moments, but as I'm Heli I didn't have to take it

Law just dull
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Old 26th Jul 2005, 15:06
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Hooters, you have a PM!
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Old 27th Jul 2005, 09:56
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Still on Module 1 at BGS so haven't had the "pleasure" of law yet. Right now instuments is giving me some grief - it's hard to work everything out in my mind when the only aircraft I get to look in is an old PA28 without any computers.

Met is quite interesting (apart from Climatology) because it's all around you. Is it raining today? Yes, why? Because a polar front depression has crept down (usually pushed up North due to the ITCZ in summer) and I'm sitting under a warm sector

Anyone attending the BGS brush-up course for Module 1 on 22Aug then exams at Silsoe 5,6,7,8 Sep?

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Old 28th Jul 2005, 14:10
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Piece of P*ss

To CarbHeatIn and Out,

Cannot believe how one could fail AGK this was one of the easiest subjects. Also who finds performance hard!

Phantom how could you not get 100% in VFR comms honestly!!!!

I think the CAA should make these exams harder give us a real challenge!!!

I feels sorry that you feel the CAA cheated you out of your pass because there were too many Electrics Questions.

Maybe this will be a lesson to spend more time studying and LESS TIME ON FACE PARTY & RATE MY CAMEL TOE!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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