Oxford (OAT) assessment day - a review
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I find that quite amusing actually, "you cannot argue with a fool", and then you go and argue back!
Its better to keep your mouth closed and let people think your a fool, than to open it and prove them right.
Why do some of you feel the need to open it?
Its better to keep your mouth closed and let people think your a fool, than to open it and prove them right.
Why do some of you feel the need to open it?
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The OAT 1 year IR renewal guarantee (part of "Skills Net") you refer to is a recent thing, maybe not even 6 months old.
Jonhattan, I was not being mean, but you really have to watch the OAT propaganda.I'll believe them if they ever release the real figures. But when you ask, they say that they can only rely on people who get back to them once they have a job. In a way that's fair enough, but then don't publish number based on that (they will look really good but won't be exactly accurate).
I wonder what they claim for modular students (even the ones who did all their modules at Oxford and were thus promised career help). Ahhh, but I guess modular students did not do the 2-week classroom course "First Officer Fundamentals (which covers mostly MCC material). That must make them a MUCH higher training risk for airlines, so their files are rarely forwarded. Makes perfect sense
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Dlav, you just proved my point. Thanks
Adwjenk, just so you know I have had several Golf's mainly GTI's one Rallye even a Corrado G60 once, nice thing, you cannot beat rear wheel drive for sheer fun and that is where the Golf runs a bit flat even the 4wd ones.
Adwjenk, just so you know I have had several Golf's mainly GTI's one Rallye even a Corrado G60 once, nice thing, you cannot beat rear wheel drive for sheer fun and that is where the Golf runs a bit flat even the 4wd ones.
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Re: Oxford (OAT) assessment day - a review
Originally Posted by qw21
Not so.
The OAT 1 year IR renewal guarantee (part of "Skills Net") you refer to is a recent thing, maybe not even 6 months old. The earliest we will know if anyone has had to use that backup i.e. no job after a year will be one year after the first "Skills Net" APP FO courses graduate/issued their IRs.
The OAT 1 year IR renewal guarantee (part of "Skills Net") you refer to is a recent thing, maybe not even 6 months old. The earliest we will know if anyone has had to use that backup i.e. no job after a year will be one year after the first "Skills Net" APP FO courses graduate/issued their IRs.
Permafrost_ATPL, i know you weren’t being mean, its good to have a "balanced discussion", makes it more informative.
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OAT Skills Test
Could anyone give me an insite into the Skills Test days at OAT? I know they're important to filter out the applicants but a heads up on what's tested and how the days take shape would be very much appreciated.
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I'm sure someone will come along and give you a much more detailed answer but this is what I can remember from the OAT seminar a few weeks ago.
Over two days you do COMPASS tests which includes a maths and physics exams and tests similar to the PILAPT program used by the other FTO's. They look at hand-eye coordination, memory, mutli-tasking and the like.
You also have group tasks and discussions followed by a sim-ride and finally an interview+debrief.
Don't qoute me on the exact order of all this tho!
Over two days you do COMPASS tests which includes a maths and physics exams and tests similar to the PILAPT program used by the other FTO's. They look at hand-eye coordination, memory, mutli-tasking and the like.
You also have group tasks and discussions followed by a sim-ride and finally an interview+debrief.
Don't qoute me on the exact order of all this tho!
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I know nobody's said much here for a while, but just to add recent experiences.
If you get 9/15 on Tech test, do not despair. I know someone who got 9 and failed Tech, but I got 9 and OAT's commercial director, who was debriefing me, passed me it all depends!
Oh, and in terms of topics for discussion in the group assessment, I had "Automation in aviation", "Aviation over the last 10 years" and "Iraq- is it just a cover up for the failings of the UK's foreign policy?" and while I liked the topics, there were those that found them too hard. You have been warned!
Good luck to all sitting the assessment though, it's good fun!
If you get 9/15 on Tech test, do not despair. I know someone who got 9 and failed Tech, but I got 9 and OAT's commercial director, who was debriefing me, passed me
it all depends!Oh, and in terms of topics for discussion in the group assessment, I had "Automation in aviation", "Aviation over the last 10 years" and "Iraq- is it just a cover up for the failings of the UK's foreign policy?" and while I liked the topics, there were those that found them too hard. You have been warned!
Good luck to all sitting the assessment though, it's good fun!
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Just to plug the local pub and make things a little easier on the social side. I highly recommend visiting the Jolly Boatman which is one of the local pubs and does cheap grub. It’s also a very good way to socialise with people on your selection which may just make that bit of difference when it comes to doing the group tasks.
Directions - at the roundabout with the large car dealership in front of you turn Left and continue down the road until you hit the traffic lights. At the traffic lights turn left and continue down the dark road for about 100M and the pub should be on your right.
Directions - at the roundabout with the large car dealership in front of you turn Left and continue down the road until you hit the traffic lights. At the traffic lights turn left and continue down the dark road for about 100M and the pub should be on your right.
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Oops 
knew there was something important I wanted to say...
You CAN fail OAT assessment on the personality test! That's it although it's fairly tricky I think, and happens very rarely!
knew there was something important I wanted to say...You CAN fail OAT assessment on the personality test! That's it
although it's fairly tricky I think, and happens very rarely!
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Exact employment statistics would be a bit meaningless. There are so many factors involved that can change fairly quickly. The number of airlines recruiting now won't be the same in 12-18 months time when you graduate.
Also, every candidate is different and if you're a good student who's done well at the course and is the type of person who the airlines are looking for you will almost certainly get a job (provided market conditions are still good).
The skills assessment should (and does) increase the level of student going through, therefore more will pass the course, more will get good grades, and more will get jobs(and more with major airlines). This increases Oxford's reputation with the airlines (as they know they are getting a quality product who is likely to succeed at their training), and therefore increases Oxford's 'pull' for potential students.
Also, every candidate is different and if you're a good student who's done well at the course and is the type of person who the airlines are looking for you will almost certainly get a job (provided market conditions are still good).
The skills assessment should (and does) increase the level of student going through, therefore more will pass the course, more will get good grades, and more will get jobs(and more with major airlines). This increases Oxford's reputation with the airlines (as they know they are getting a quality product who is likely to succeed at their training), and therefore increases Oxford's 'pull' for potential students.
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Going for my assessment soon!
Hi All,
I am going for my OAT 2-day assessment shortly and was wondering if anyone could pass me some additional tips? I have read the posts which are helpful but just wondered if anyone else had 1st hand knowledge of the types of questions involved in the Maths/Physics tests? and whether they are both multiple choice? Additionally if anyone had examples of their interview questions and group discussion examples? Would appreciate any advice or comments and/or PM's especially from any recent attendees.
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I am going for my OAT 2-day assessment shortly and was wondering if anyone could pass me some additional tips? I have read the posts which are helpful but just wondered if anyone else had 1st hand knowledge of the types of questions involved in the Maths/Physics tests? and whether they are both multiple choice? Additionally if anyone had examples of their interview questions and group discussion examples? Would appreciate any advice or comments and/or PM's especially from any recent attendees.
Cheers
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No way does OAT have a 100% employment history. I know pleanty of guys who went to Oxford years ago who are still waiting for that job which just wont come.
Does OAT issue rose-tinted glasses as standard to all its APP students?
Does OAT issue rose-tinted glasses as standard to all its APP students?
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I did the OAT skills assessment back in the middle of January. It was quite an enjoyable experience, although I think I could have had more fun for £195.
The best advice I can give for the maths part is know your times tables up to something like 20x20 and know them well. I have a calculator on my desk at work and I am lazy, I reach for it for even simple things. The fact I took the time to learn the tables was really helpful. It makes your long multiplication and division so much faster.
The physics part is not too difficult, but I did A-Level physics, an engineering degree and I have worked as an engineer for five years so I am lucky that I use that stuff all the time and I just "know it" now. A lot of people have recommended the BBC bite size website. If you can do that you should be OK.
The hand / eye stuff, I think you can either do it or you can't (I passed this by one mark). Strange really, because I was really good in the sim and the guy said I scored very well.
For the interview and group exercises, be yourself but you must have confidence in yourself. You can't just sit there and let it pass you by, you must contribute. I also can't overstate how useful it is to get to know your selection-mates. We all went out for dinner & beers on the middle night and it helped greatly in the group exercises.
So all in all I passed and I got a phone call a couple of days later asking me if I wanted to book a start date. I said I didn't as I still had to make a trip to Jerez.
I was successful in Jerez too, so I had a decision to make.
I didn't mind paying the money to do the OAT selection, I was however amazed that I had to buy my own lunch. Trivial I know but it set the tone. To cut a long story short in June I will have my sun cream on and my Spanish phase book handy.
The best advice I can give for the maths part is know your times tables up to something like 20x20 and know them well. I have a calculator on my desk at work and I am lazy, I reach for it for even simple things. The fact I took the time to learn the tables was really helpful. It makes your long multiplication and division so much faster.
The physics part is not too difficult, but I did A-Level physics, an engineering degree and I have worked as an engineer for five years so I am lucky that I use that stuff all the time and I just "know it" now. A lot of people have recommended the BBC bite size website. If you can do that you should be OK.
The hand / eye stuff, I think you can either do it or you can't (I passed this by one mark). Strange really, because I was really good in the sim and the guy said I scored very well.
For the interview and group exercises, be yourself but you must have confidence in yourself. You can't just sit there and let it pass you by, you must contribute. I also can't overstate how useful it is to get to know your selection-mates. We all went out for dinner & beers on the middle night and it helped greatly in the group exercises.
So all in all I passed and I got a phone call a couple of days later asking me if I wanted to book a start date. I said I didn't as I still had to make a trip to Jerez.
I was successful in Jerez too, so I had a decision to make.
I didn't mind paying the money to do the OAT selection, I was however amazed that I had to buy my own lunch. Trivial I know but it set the tone. To cut a long story short in June I will have my sun cream on and my Spanish phase book handy.
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HIi
PLEASE can you tell us what kind of questions we will have on physics
example will be nice thanks
and with subject to revise on www.bbc......
example will be nice thanks
and with subject to revise on www.bbc......
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Exactly what I was going to ask here! I am taking the OAT/NJ Skills Assessment next Thursday.. Anybody else? I did some basic physics revising already, but an example of what we can expect would be greatly appreciated.. Is it comparable with something like this?
http://www.cabair.com/integrated/phy...er/Physics.htm
http://www.cabair.com/integrated/phy...er/Physics.htm