Naples Air Centre - The Truth
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From: Wishing it was somewhere sunny!
daniel78, quote from an earlier post of yours
Here is the full posting :
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=162130
altough I have the european-canadian version of a mullet,hockeyhair, I do not have the cap to support it.
Here is the full posting :
http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...hreadid=162130
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From: Europe
Hi,
Thanks for all your comments. I understand everyone's view. I thought it was worth posting as I was there so recently.
I am now at a UK school and have seen how proper flight training should be conducted. I assure all readers that Naples Air Centre fails in every respect to meet the standards set in the UK. Leaving there with the piece of paper in your hand may meet the admin requirements of the CAA but it will certainly all have to be undone later in your training.
You may notice in my first post one of the points has been edited. I understand why and respect the wishes of pprune. This was the most worrying part of NAC by far. I cannot mention it now of course, however, I suggest if you know anyone who has been to NAC recently you try and find out a little more about an incident that took place.
Regards,
NS
Thanks for all your comments. I understand everyone's view. I thought it was worth posting as I was there so recently.
I am now at a UK school and have seen how proper flight training should be conducted. I assure all readers that Naples Air Centre fails in every respect to meet the standards set in the UK. Leaving there with the piece of paper in your hand may meet the admin requirements of the CAA but it will certainly all have to be undone later in your training.
You may notice in my first post one of the points has been edited. I understand why and respect the wishes of pprune. This was the most worrying part of NAC by far. I cannot mention it now of course, however, I suggest if you know anyone who has been to NAC recently you try and find out a little more about an incident that took place.
Regards,
NS
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From: Europe
I have been unbanned from the training forum! I am still using my real name. What I really don't understand is why you guys decided to pick on me for this?
Anyway....all water under the bridge now.
Sigh!
Anyway....all water under the bridge now.
Sigh!
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From: Ireland
Hi NaplesStudent
So how many toilets does your British school have? Did you inlude your toliet requirements in your criteria to choose your new school? I think not, somethings just don't really matter when compared to safety records, aircraft availability or quality of instructors.
If you had kept your original post to reasonable criticisms I'm sure you would have been taken more seriously.
How do you manage on a long cross country in a C152, ain't no toilets in them.
T
So how many toilets does your British school have? Did you inlude your toliet requirements in your criteria to choose your new school? I think not, somethings just don't really matter when compared to safety records, aircraft availability or quality of instructors.
If you had kept your original post to reasonable criticisms I'm sure you would have been taken more seriously.
How do you manage on a long cross country in a C152, ain't no toilets in them.
T
The Cooler King
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From: Europe
"How do you manage on a long cross country in a C152, ain't no toilets in them"
They have a little window that you can open! You can get a bit of sprayback sometimes if the wind is wrong and you need to get permission from the Tower......
"Tower, this is Cessna 1234, I'd like to extend my middle leg!!"
They have a little window that you can open! You can get a bit of sprayback sometimes if the wind is wrong and you need to get permission from the Tower......
"Tower, this is Cessna 1234, I'd like to extend my middle leg!!"
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From: Wishing it was somewhere sunny!
So NaplesStudent, I note from your last post:
I strongly suspect that you didn't get a PPL at NAC and are choosing to blame the school instead of yourself for that. The fact is that flying isn't for everybody and the students who "fail to cut the mustard" are the ones who blame the standard of training rather than themselves for their failure. Tell me I am wrong! There is absolutely nothing wrong with the standards of training at NAC, on the other hand, the standard of some of the students is far from perfect. Are you one of those less able students? Each and all of us have strengths and weaknesses and the trick is to recognise and utilise personal strengths-and at the same time recognise and accept our own weaknesses rather than blame others for the consequences of them!
Good luck!
I am now at a UK school
Good luck!
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From: Sunny side up pls..
I promised myself I would stay away from this one, however;
To prevent it from fading into obscurity.....
I pretty much second all of "Naples Student" opinions, that is really the way it was a couple of years ago, somewhat surprised they still run it the same way.
It's a shame a thread like this one always turns into name calling by the same people, the usual suspects who always seem to be waiting in the shadows to pummel everybody with a negative view of their "wonderfull favorite flight school".
Let's not forget some people are treated different from others, just depends on who is who in their eyes.
Face it, there are better places to go.
Just unfortunate that for most students this is their first school and therefore really have no clue on how they are being bent over.
If Naples Student and WX man and SR 20 can come with any more substantiated real info I'm sure that will be appreciated by a lot of silent wannabee's.
To prevent it from fading into obscurity.....
I pretty much second all of "Naples Student" opinions, that is really the way it was a couple of years ago, somewhat surprised they still run it the same way.
It's a shame a thread like this one always turns into name calling by the same people, the usual suspects who always seem to be waiting in the shadows to pummel everybody with a negative view of their "wonderfull favorite flight school".
Let's not forget some people are treated different from others, just depends on who is who in their eyes.
Face it, there are better places to go.
Just unfortunate that for most students this is their first school and therefore really have no clue on how they are being bent over.
If Naples Student and WX man and SR 20 can come with any more substantiated real info I'm sure that will be appreciated by a lot of silent wannabee's.
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From: Merritt Island
Sorry, but the previous comment from SENSIBLE makes me angry. It illustrates a level of intellectual snobbery that still pervades JAR training and it's high time we cut out the class crap and stop looking down our noses at others. It's not a question of being unable to "cut the mustard" SENSIBLE old chap, but rather the quality of instruction which CAN and DOES produce good pilots. The challenge for instructors is to be creative in how they impart knowledge for the different abilities of their students. A good instructor will use different methods for different students but too many people become instructors without that innate ability to REALLY teach.
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From: Wishing it was somewhere sunny!
cfimei,
Sorry mate, I didn't get taught what those sort of fancy words mean on the council estate that I was brought up on. Please explain!
It illustrates a level of intellectual snobbery
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From: Europe
Hi All,
I'm glad. As this post has been on for a few weeks now, the initial posts from the few regular ppruners who always jump on anyone who say anything bad about NAC have been compensated by other posters who had similar experiences to myself.
I also thank the guys who have sent me supportive PMs.
I would love to explain my own details regarding my training at NAC. However, if I did, then the NAC management would be able to work out who I was. I know what happens to people who upset Richard (NAC owner) and I don't wish to ruin any more of my training or get involved in anything unpleasent.
I'm also glad Nikki responded with a post. I'm afraid that all my points are completely true and you will discover this when you get over to the other side of the Atlantic. Bit late then I'm afraid... The instuctors are all young with few hours and no nothing of JAA. Thay are all FAA and have no idea what JAA is.
I strongly say again that trying to do fast and poor training at Naples Air Centre leads to problems later on. I am not alone when I say this. It will not save you money in the long run and cause a lot of stress. You might as well start off with a solid foundation in your training at a UK flight school and move on from there confident in your skills.
NaplesStudent
I'm glad. As this post has been on for a few weeks now, the initial posts from the few regular ppruners who always jump on anyone who say anything bad about NAC have been compensated by other posters who had similar experiences to myself.
I also thank the guys who have sent me supportive PMs.
I would love to explain my own details regarding my training at NAC. However, if I did, then the NAC management would be able to work out who I was. I know what happens to people who upset Richard (NAC owner) and I don't wish to ruin any more of my training or get involved in anything unpleasent.
I'm also glad Nikki responded with a post. I'm afraid that all my points are completely true and you will discover this when you get over to the other side of the Atlantic. Bit late then I'm afraid... The instuctors are all young with few hours and no nothing of JAA. Thay are all FAA and have no idea what JAA is.
I strongly say again that trying to do fast and poor training at Naples Air Centre leads to problems later on. I am not alone when I say this. It will not save you money in the long run and cause a lot of stress. You might as well start off with a solid foundation in your training at a UK flight school and move on from there confident in your skills.
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From: falling off the edge of europe
As a private pilot that has been to another american school for my PPL, I am now trying to make up my mind about where to continue to next. However, the majority of your comments, although some have been enlightening, have made my decision more complicated than ever. For now I have no idea who is being truthful or not. Not very helpful lads.
I don't wish to use another name as a guise or want to call names, I would just like some honest opinions from what I thought was a network to offer advice to fellow pilots. If anyone has any unbiased experiences of schools in USA for JAA prof courses then I would be most interested in hearing them.
Otherwise, I guess my research will have to continue elsewhere...
carrie
I don't wish to use another name as a guise or want to call names, I would just like some honest opinions from what I thought was a network to offer advice to fellow pilots. If anyone has any unbiased experiences of schools in USA for JAA prof courses then I would be most interested in hearing them.
Otherwise, I guess my research will have to continue elsewhere...
carrie
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From: London
Keen readers of prune may be aware of the probs i had with NAC. I put these down to an inefficient admin department and despite the trouble, time and money that this cost me i accepted this and bore no bad feelings against the school as a whole as a result of my experience.
To add insult to injury I've since received a private message from a member of NAC staff accusing me of making up my claims (i can assure you everything i said was true) and claiming that they did everything they could for me (rubbish). This came from someone who previously seemed to have a conscience compared to the dodgy admin people i'd previously encountered. Following the problems NAC had caused me and my balanced and understanding reaction this really took the biiscuit... really pretty miffed, i'd take your business elsewhere.
To add insult to injury I've since received a private message from a member of NAC staff accusing me of making up my claims (i can assure you everything i said was true) and claiming that they did everything they could for me (rubbish). This came from someone who previously seemed to have a conscience compared to the dodgy admin people i'd previously encountered. Following the problems NAC had caused me and my balanced and understanding reaction this really took the biiscuit... really pretty miffed, i'd take your business elsewhere.