ATPL Complications
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ATPL Complications
Hey guys.
I'm thinking of going to London Metropolitan University to take up a full-time Residential ATPL ground study course. Now, they tell me (or at least on the website) that I need 'flying' aswell. I think at the end of it I come out with an ATPL?
Firstly, what is a Residential ATPL? Is it the same as the ATPL?
Secondly, any recommendations on where to go to get flying experience? Also, what does the ATPL entitle you to fly, is it the same as the CPL?
Do you think I would be better in just taking an Integrated course at a flying school?
Here, this is the link for the London Met website, maybe it'll make more sense than me
http://www.londonmet.ac.uk/depts/bss...p/bap_home.cfm[U]
Thanks people, appreciate it
Rob.
I'm thinking of going to London Metropolitan University to take up a full-time Residential ATPL ground study course. Now, they tell me (or at least on the website) that I need 'flying' aswell. I think at the end of it I come out with an ATPL?
Firstly, what is a Residential ATPL? Is it the same as the ATPL?
Secondly, any recommendations on where to go to get flying experience? Also, what does the ATPL entitle you to fly, is it the same as the CPL?
Do you think I would be better in just taking an Integrated course at a flying school?
Here, this is the link for the London Met website, maybe it'll make more sense than me
http://www.londonmet.ac.uk/depts/bss...p/bap_home.cfm[U]
Thanks people, appreciate it
Rob.
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1) Obtain Class I medical
2) Obtain any ICAO PPL
3) Study ATPL ground exams
4) Hourbuild to 150 hours and do a cross country trip of 300nm
5) Obtain CPL
6) Obtain IR
7) Obtain MCC
Job Done!! Take a minimum of about a year if done full time.
2) Obtain any ICAO PPL
3) Study ATPL ground exams
4) Hourbuild to 150 hours and do a cross country trip of 300nm
5) Obtain CPL
6) Obtain IR
7) Obtain MCC
Job Done!! Take a minimum of about a year if done full time.
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The ATPL at London are the ATPL theory, you need a PPL to take these exams, all 14 of them.
An integrated course can start you from scratch: EG zero experience, but if you want to do just the ATPLs at London that would involve the modular route.
As said above, class 1 medical before anything, make sure your body is up to the job prior to throwing piles of hard earned at the training schools!!
Will take 1 Year approx full time, but if like me you opt for the modular route it takes as long as it takes, the more time you put in the quicker you will finish.
I think three years is the average for modular part time? I saw it somewhere but do not know where?
Whatever you decide, look into what you want to do allot more so you can make informed decisions, and DO NOT PAY FOR ANYTHING UP FRONT!
An integrated course can start you from scratch: EG zero experience, but if you want to do just the ATPLs at London that would involve the modular route.
As said above, class 1 medical before anything, make sure your body is up to the job prior to throwing piles of hard earned at the training schools!!
Will take 1 Year approx full time, but if like me you opt for the modular route it takes as long as it takes, the more time you put in the quicker you will finish.
I think three years is the average for modular part time? I saw it somewhere but do not know where?
Whatever you decide, look into what you want to do allot more so you can make informed decisions, and DO NOT PAY FOR ANYTHING UP FRONT!
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You need to think about what you actualy want to do with the qualifications. Do you want to be a pilot? I cant realy tell from your post if thats what you want to do at the end of the day.
You will not come out with an ATPL, you will have a CPL/IR and all the ATPL exams. This is often refered to as a Frozen ATPL, but there is no such license, what it means is that you have the right to convert your CPL to an ATPL when you reach the minimum hours for an ATPL (currently 1500 including multi pilot time and cross country time etc)
No disrespect but it sounds like you need to do a little research on the whole process before you make a choice and pay out any money because it is HUGELY expensive. Good luck
PS: A year even full time is a little optimistic, most people take 15-18 months average following the integrated route.
You will not come out with an ATPL, you will have a CPL/IR and all the ATPL exams. This is often refered to as a Frozen ATPL, but there is no such license, what it means is that you have the right to convert your CPL to an ATPL when you reach the minimum hours for an ATPL (currently 1500 including multi pilot time and cross country time etc)
No disrespect but it sounds like you need to do a little research on the whole process before you make a choice and pay out any money because it is HUGELY expensive. Good luck
PS: A year even full time is a little optimistic, most people take 15-18 months average following the integrated route.
Read the sticky post about 'archivce reference threads' at the top of this forum. They cover a lot of stuff that will answer your questions (and stimulate new ones, I'm sure).
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Hi rob
My advise before you go signing yourself up to anything is to call into a flying school and ask them to explain the whole procedure to you . Its obvious that your very under knowledeged on the whole understanding of flight training .
It's a huge expence so it really does pay off to find out exactly what is involved before starting and the best way to do that is to sit down and get explained in plain simple english what is involved so you can stop them at any stage if you don't understand .flightime...
My advise before you go signing yourself up to anything is to call into a flying school and ask them to explain the whole procedure to you . Its obvious that your very under knowledeged on the whole understanding of flight training .
It's a huge expence so it really does pay off to find out exactly what is involved before starting and the best way to do that is to sit down and get explained in plain simple english what is involved so you can stop them at any stage if you don't understand .flightime...
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Job Done!! Take a minimum of about a year if done full time.
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Fourteen months!!!!! Wow that is quick, how long did it take for you to do yours?????? and have you got your IR yet???????
Myself I started in Oct 2003, went from 0 to 150 Hours in 8 Weeks, Distance Learning full time 12 months for the ATPL exams. Going to the States for the CPL etc...... and finishing the IR here in the UK. I hope to be finished March or April next year. Total time Eighteen to Nineteen Months.
After talking to others who are doing Modular full time (as I am) I find this is a more realistic figure than the one the schools give out of 12 to 14 months.
Just my two pence worth.
FF
Fourteen months!!!!! Wow that is quick, how long did it take for you to do yours?????? and have you got your IR yet???????
Myself I started in Oct 2003, went from 0 to 150 Hours in 8 Weeks, Distance Learning full time 12 months for the ATPL exams. Going to the States for the CPL etc...... and finishing the IR here in the UK. I hope to be finished March or April next year. Total time Eighteen to Nineteen Months.
After talking to others who are doing Modular full time (as I am) I find this is a more realistic figure than the one the schools give out of 12 to 14 months.
Just my two pence worth.
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The G/S is by far the most time consuming. I am talking about doing a full time modular ie doing each module concurrently. The fully integrated courses are generally advertised as 14 months and the full time modular canusually be done in slightly less. I don't have the IR yet but these are the figures I have come up with in my research. If I am wrong, I am only quoting what the schools say and I usually preceed my quotes with "usually" and "about" which indicates the figures I give are not set in stone.
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