Hour building (USA)

[Sensible]

Universal Air, El Monte is an excellent option. The aircraft are not new but their attitude is excellent, I couldn't fault them. The location is very pretty and lots of very interesting flying is close at hand. You have to do the corridor directly over LAX airport and a Catalina landing!!

[captainvampire]

Colorado = 300 days a year sunshine.

Hey guys I have just moved to Denver in Colorado from the UK and have a FSDO just down the road from me so if you want me to stop in there and find anything out for you give me a call. Or if you are looking for a plane I can ask around at the airfield I work at. Please remember I'm 8 hrs behind you. I don't know what you dial to get out of the UK but my number in the USA is 303-594-1001. CP

[jajabinks]

re: Hour Building in Phoenix, AZ

Anyone done hour building in Phoenix? Looking to do some hour building over there but concerned that it won't give me the best exposure (less traffic, climatic differences, etc. etc.) when compared to hour building in UK. Heard of any good schools?

[edymonster]

Hour building in a multi

Hello,

Just wanted to know if it is possible to hour build in the states on a multi with a JAA multi? Also is it really worth building on a Multi for the sake of getting my P1 hours up to 100 for issue of the CPL. I need to build another 30 hours or so.
Any Comments appreciated.

[SD.]

It's unlikely that you'll find a school in the states to solo hire you a multi with low multi/total time. I think the general min requirements are around 25 hours on type for insurance reasons. If this is the case, then you'll need to carry a FI/safety pilot who does meet the insurance requirements and this of course bumps up the price. You also won't be able to log it as PIC if there's a FI onboard.


Hope this helps

[dfspilot]

i checked this out with a few schools in florida for a mate of mine last year and the lowest i was quoted was 50 hours multi time before they would let you go solo, again due to insurance problems.

[edymonster]

Cheers for the help guys, was just a passing thought anyway

[sunpoint]

contact searching for hour building in USA

Hi,

I`m looking forward to go to USA this summer for hour building. Is there anybody interested in to come with me for sharing some costs and to fly together. I`m a little bit afraid of going alone to USA for several flying sessions and I think it makes more fun to fly with different people.
I´m from Germany (Cologne).

Thank you very much for your answers

[Platinum206]

Hour Building Phoenix Area

Hi Guys,

Has anyone got experience hour building in the Phoenix Arizona area?

I plan to head over for approx 3 weeks in July and would much appreciate any tips or any advice anyone may have, especially regarding who and where to rent the aircraft from.

Look forward to your replies,
P206

[Shamrogue]

Phoenix

Hi Platinum,

I do a wee bit over that part of the world. Fly out of Chandler usually. One tip - the heat in July is pretty intense. Lots of thermal activity. So prepare for a bumpy ride.

Otherwise the scenery can be stunning - upto the North - Sedona is excellent along with a spin across to Winslow and the Meteor crater.

Finally, if you really feel like having fun - scoot upto Vegas.

Much more interesting than Florida.

Cheerio

Shamrogue

[Platinum206]

Thanks for that Shamrogue, who do you normally rent from?

I was thinking about the thermals alright, can they be avoided in the morning/ evenings or are they pretty much constant all day?

I did a lot of flying in Florida alright and yes, it can get quite boring after a while!

P206

[tony2F]

Platinum 206 Hi,

I'm in PHX at the moment only 2 weeks left and its home to the green isle! Came over here 3 months ago and did cpl/ir. Flew in florida a few years ago, yeah totally agree boring. Az is far from boring, mountain flying hot and high problems some amazing scenery. Apart from that I've had some amazing encounters with F16's and today with 2 Harriers all very polite and I was chuffed that they waved at me in my warrior.

I'm based in Chandler like shamrogue .I'm at Chandler Air Service. Warrior $86 per hour. I would recommend this to anyone. I've been in NM, CA, NV, UT and all over AZ. The IR training all done in the aeroplane under the hood, holding alt in these thermals is a skill alone but you will learn how to handle it. My flying has improved no end. The school is brill, not perfect but this is the real world. The US has less then 100 aerobatic instructors and 4 of them are in this school. The red bull race team arrived at the school 2 days ago and the aeroplanes are being assembled now for the race this week. This school is very realistic and not a big shiny american flight school with ppls wearing uniforms, you will be taught to fly the aeroplane cause the biggest part of these guys business is aerobatic training. The FBI and the CIA do all their spin training here. The check ride you get is also very strict not like some of these other american schools, this makes the transition to IR in the UK much easier.

I visited alot of schools and picked this one so I wouldn't suffer the difficult conversion that so many ppruners talk about and are correct about. Its up to you to find somewhere that suits you. CAS suits me, and every $1000 you deposit you get 10% more added to your account or you can pay as you go. I lodged $1000 at a time.

AZ beats florida hands down, but still looking forward to home and flying there again.


hope this helps

Tony2f

[Platinum206]

sqwkvfr,

Thanks for that, yes it is indeed just the hour-building I am interested in, as I already have the PPL, +/- 100hrs and ATPL theory done. I need the extra few hours to bring me up to the 150 mark to commence the CPL.

Idealy I would like to fly C172, as this is what I have most experiience on and feel most comfortable with for hour-building. Although the G100 would be nice, It would be an extra cost and therefore not a necessity (SP?)

I would like to stay away from the older model aircraft, again ideally 172SP or similar, preferably with GPS for the added safety when travelling further afield etc.

I really appreciate even when you guys thow up names of various rental companies and that as I am not familiar with the area and hence the availability.

Cheers,
P206

[Flame]

P206 and all;

Has anyone an idea of costs involved in renting a C172 (in bulk say for 50-60hours) hour building in the PHX area.

Also, Do you know if any special type of Visa needs to be obtained in travelling to Arizona from Europe to do the hour building..?

[F900EX]

Hey Captain Vampire.. I agree Colorado is a great place to fly.

Which airfield do you work at in Denver ?

[Platinum206]

Flame;

I have contacted a number of the flight schools ion the Phoenix area as they do not have a discounted rate for bulk hours advertised on their website.

In regard to the Visa requirements, as far as I am aware there are not any requirements for Visa for aircraft rental, due to the fact that you are not a student, and hence not training etc, therefore no Visa requirements exist. I have done hour building in the US before and this was one of he first questions I asked

P206

[acebk]

How to build hours

Hello, i am from the country of Belize, im thinking about the cheapest way to do my training to get my CPL. What i was think was to first go to the US and get my PPL, ill prob finish with about 60hrs or so. Then ill go back home and build some hours to 150hrs and then go back to the US and get my CPL. But i really dont know anything about logging hours and how it is done and how can your hours be verify, how can they know your hours were flown. I was thinking of building my hours by jump seating with one of our local airlines, they fly c172, c182, c207,c208, they let you jump seat to help our local pilots. I want to know if i can build my hours like this and if not, how shall it be done?

Thanks

[EpsilonVaz]

Your hour building would have to be logged as P1 (Pilot in Command).

"Jump seating" (not sure how you do that in a 172 ) Doesn't count I'm afraid.

EpsilonVaz

[EpsilonVaz]

(by the way, FP_Ace is joking)

[A330 Dreamer]

Sunstate aviation, Kissimmee

Has anyone ever been to Sunstate aviation for hours building before?

If so, how did you find them?

I see from their website, that their aircraft are all relatively new. How do you find the instructors? (whoever has been there and used them)

Regards