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Above The Clouds 16th Dec 2016 15:57

His latest Facebook post around 15 mins ago is unintelligible.


Maurice Kirk
readt to repair with pRTS tk NOW damMged oin a TERIBLE route toLoki from Narius
...
Quite rightly another poster has asked are you actually fit to fly.


John Dawson
are you sure you are OK to fly? much less put an airplane back together?

Homsap 16th Dec 2016 16:23

Apart from the aircraft becoming airworthy, will Maurice be fit to fly under the terms of his medical, seem unlikely based on his recent medical issues.

Also, if he did ever get to Cape Town, has he a plan to fly back to the UK, I dread to think.

G-KEST 16th Dec 2016 16:56

I wish Maurice well in his efforts to recover both himself and his beloved Cub. If and when he gets home to the UK; I do hope he revisits Leicester to give a repeat performance of that unforgettable and impromptu talk he gave in the clubhouse one lunchtime. I had recently retired from the CAA and was reduced to tears.....of mirth.
Come back Maurice, all is forgiven............ well nearly all.

jgs43 16th Dec 2016 17:15


Originally Posted by Above The Clouds (Post 9611482)
His latest Facebook post around 15 mins ago is unintelligible.



Quite rightly another poster has asked are you actually fit to fly.

ATC

If I could hazard a guess The facebook entry could be read as follows -

"Ready to repair with parts. Truck(carrying cub?) now damaged owing to terrible road from Narius to (prob) Lokichagio Airport"

He had asked earlier for someone to ferry the parts from Nairobi to Loki

Mike Flynn 16th Dec 2016 21:56

Maurice Kirk: Air League Award
 
While the old curmudgeon aviator is still alive and generating headlines why can we not brighten up his life?

When you read this quote from Barry Tempest (ex CAA ) it puts his adventures in to context.


I wish Maurice well in his efforts to recover both himself and his beloved Cub. If and when he gets home to the UK; I do hope he revisits Leicester to give a repeat performance of that unforgettable and impromptu talk he gave in the clubhouse one lunchtime. I had recently retired from the CAA and was reduced to tears.....of mirth.
Come back Maurice, all is forgiven............ well nearly all.
Terry Holloway has flagged up the prospect that Kirk warrants an award from the
Air League for his adventures.

Can we propose him for pushing back the boundaries of basic aviation in the 21st century?

Or just being an eccentric old pilot?

Sam Rutherford 17th Dec 2016 07:10

It's a great shame he's not here with us in Cape Town.

I hope he's able to complete this journey.

Sam.

piperboy84 17th Dec 2016 07:22


Originally Posted by Sam Rutherford (Post 9612140)
It's a great shame he's not here with us in Cape Town.

I hope he's able to complete this journey.

Sam.

Sam, nice sentiments but I bet you'd like to throttle the old bastard for pissing on your parade with all distractions he created.

Sam Rutherford 17th Dec 2016 08:26

Actually no - he was difficult (and his aircraft navigation solutions inoperative) but I wanted to get him to CT if possible. In the end, it was not possible with us but perhaps he can do it independently...?

Homsap 17th Dec 2016 08:34

But Sam, will you be giving Maurice a full or partial refund? I think we should know!

Sam Rutherford 17th Dec 2016 08:39

Hi Homsap,

No, he only paid a fraction of the actual cost anyway - and still owes us several thousand USD for all his fuel and oil in Egypt, Sudan and Ethiopia!

Onmybike 17th Dec 2016 08:58

from a general web search;-

John Dawson‎ to Vintage Air Rally
11 hrs · Mount Pleasant, NC, United States ·
I understand Maurice Kirk is now in Lokichoggio Kenya trying to move South? I say the guy will make it. He doesn't give up.

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David Goddard

David Goddard As long as the plane hasn't been stripped/trashed.

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John Dawson

John Dawson posted 12/17; Maurice Kirk Trying to get spares sent from Nairobi to Loki pdq. pdq BEFORE chrisrtmas much labour to get her flying to vic Falls 31st,,, on a phone new number later but Face book blocked

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Maurice Kirk

Maurice Kirk need a reliable lawyer in Nairobi for RCJ work and Sam Rutherford is next on the list

1 hr

robin 17th Dec 2016 09:08


Originally Posted by Sam Rutherford (Post 9612194)
Hi Homsap,

No, he only paid a fraction of the actual cost anyway - and still owes us several thousand USD for all his fuel and oil in Egypt, Sudan and Ethiopia!

From Maurice's FB page it looks like he's on another mission with Sam as a target.

Would have thought he'd got enough to do fixing the Cub.

BTW, well done to those who busted a gut getting the parts to Kenya.

Homsap 17th Dec 2016 09:58

Hi Sam

Thank you for an open and honest answer, but I guess based on Maurice's background, he will nor let it go!

I'm not sure if you have heard of Judge Rinder (the UK equivalent of Judge Judy), Maurice would be ideal for such a show. The hearings on the show are actually arbitration, but the 'judges' ruling is legally binding. The advantage is that neither party can loose costs, and the person who loses, gets their loss paid for by the TV production company. It would be a win win situation, plus we would get more great entertainment from Maurice!

Pace 17th Dec 2016 11:33


if he returns to his Cub to find it stripped to a skeleton. He can then go home safely, knowing that he had done his best against insurmountable odds.
I have bought two bikes in London in the space of four months
The first vanished from the rail it was attached to outside a Underground station
I returned to find the new replacement one attached to the rail minus its wheels 2 weeks later

I am really surprised there is anything left of his Cub In Africa

piperboy84 17th Dec 2016 15:02


I have bought two bikes in London in the space of four months
The first vanished from the rail it was attached to outside a Underground station
I returned to find the new replacement one attached to the rail minus its wheels 2 weeks late
I packed in the booze in a get fit push, bought a bike for exercise, bike got nicked 3 days later, I hear the pub calling !

9 lives 17th Dec 2016 16:50

I've never bought Avgas in Africa, but I have bought some in Canada, at a remote outpost, whose cost was $6.83 per liter, and you have to buy the whole drum, use it or not. I was happy to pay it, and even more happy that the whole drum fit in my plane.

In northern Finland two years ago, I paid 3.85 Euro per liter, and that was at a large airport.

I respect the fact that some "off the beaten track" trips, can be very costly. Pilots must go into that aware.

Saab Dastard 17th Dec 2016 18:05

A number of people have used this and another thread to further their own agendas. This will not be tolerated: the other thread has been deleted and they have been banned from this thread.

SD

eastern wiseguy 18th Dec 2016 01:03

I am puzzled. An elderly gent ...piloting ,force landing and bending an elderly airplane puts out a call for help. The plea for getting spares supplies etc I can understand(even if I think I would cut my losses and return home) BUT to ask for a Kenyan lawyer to continue a legal fight which originated(iirc) in the UK must surely be a bizarre request. Surely he did not set out to continue this fight by way of Kenya? Is he thinking clearly? If he were a relative of mine I would be most concerned for his wellbeing.

3wheels 18th Dec 2016 04:17


Originally Posted by Saab Dastard (Post 9612632)
A number of people have used this and another thread to further their own agendas. This will not be tolerated: the other thread has been deleted and they have been banned from this thread.

SD

THANK YOU!!

Mike Flynn 18th Dec 2016 07:39

Despite suggestions the locals would have stripped the aircraft is appears they have really taken care of the Cub.

His latest posts on facebook suggest it has crossed the border.
https://s30.postimg.org/85m1ilf8h/image.jpg
https://s30.postimg.org/5uwmnpgxt/image.jpg



Maurice Kirk I need help in Loki when I return from Nairobi , possibly this thursday, to get her up on chocs to re assemble legs , elastoplast the fuselage. tie to the bumper of a car and tow her 700 yds to the airfield to put wings on ..pushing it to get to vic falls by 31st without local help....chap here called Patrick amp etc pilot lives here ,orig from Kansas, I believe ...need his tel number and guidance on an old US scratched war bird! ...... left u/c welds ok
His left lower leg looks a bit swollen.

Sadly his obsession with litigation continues.

Above The Clouds 18th Dec 2016 09:05

A job well done Maurice, now take the old girl to Kenya and get some proper repairs completed before continuing on to Cape Town. :ok:

Homsap 18th Dec 2016 09:20

Jay Sata, right leg looks worse, but I suspect this is long term as I seem to remember, when his Class 2 medical was renewed after the Psychiatric incident the doctor advised him to get his leg sorted.

Moderator this is all in the public domain on his website.

As for seeking legal advice, I'm really not sure what a Kenyan lawyer can do for a matter in the English Court. Despite I thought Maurice hated lawyers. As for Maurice's mental state, I continue to have concerns, although you can't but admire his determination.

robin 18th Dec 2016 10:40

I certainly admire his determination, but at times it seems to develop into a fixation.

With Maurice it looks like he isn't happy unless he's fighting someone or something.

Most of us content ourselves fighting one battle at a time, but that isn't his way, as far as I can see.

PDR1 18th Dec 2016 10:51

Why are the cowl panels flapping loose in that photo?

PDR

Onmybike 18th Dec 2016 12:44

Regards lawyers, I would not take his comments to literally.

He is linked to some Courts and those he is in dispute with by email and is constantly served with updated Court Orders or letters from the other sides lawyers of what he should do next.

It is in the legal papers from the other sides lawyers/officials etc that they follow his postings closely.

So Maurice is just making a public statement to those watching in the UK with whom he is in dispute that he is not running away from his cases/that fight etc.

Mike Flynn 19th Dec 2016 11:25

It appears the worst is behind him.


Maurice is safe and sound at the Aero Club of East Africa enjoying the local nectar.
https://www.facebook.com/maurice.kirk.92?ref=br_rs
https://s27.postimg.org/gbt9qohmb/image.jpg

Most people would have given up and abandoned the Cub.
https://s30.postimg.org/a4mpe3en5/image.jpg
No doubt it will be repaired over the coming days and he will be on his way.

Jonzarno 19th Dec 2016 12:54

I'm really glad to see that he looks to be OK and I hope he can get the Cub airworthy again.. :ok: :D

Obviously he has a lot to think about..........

http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/...pstelh4fmx.jpg


http://i1053.photobucket.com/albums/...psnrvklnxx.jpg



....... :hmm:

robin 19th Dec 2016 13:33

Love to know where his money is coming from. Surely would be cheaper to get another Cub and ship it out to Kenya.

If he thinks he can get it repaired and ready for flight to get to Zim by the 31st, he is being very ambitious, not to say deluded.

Planemike 19th Dec 2016 14:00

With a Tusker inside him he will soon be feeling better...........!! Well done Maurice..!!!

Pace 20th Dec 2016 12:02

He had nearly a full page write up in the Daily Mail. I don't know what he was paid for that but maybe enough to get parts and an engineer flown out to fix the aircraft?

I can understand his desire to complete the trip in that aircraft as he started in the aircraft and probably has a sentimental attachment to it
I just hope he invests in a reliable GPS unit gets himself rested and sorted in the period it takes to restore the aircraft and determines to take a different approach to the next legs

Mike Flynn 20th Dec 2016 12:58

Newspapers such as the Daily Mail pay nothing for stories such as this despite the myth they have fat check-books.

The recent Daily Mail feature was a mix of news agency copy and material in the public domain?

Maurice will not get far on hopes of money from the newspapers to fund his adventure.

He has published a shopping list on Facebook.


STOLEN equipment from the poor old cub, downed in South Sudan, leaves Maurice with a long shopping list to beg, borrrrow, prefeably buy, 2nd hand or new ......
1. hand held radio
2. emergency beacon
3. ferry tanks
4. petrol tubing/ conections and out board primer pump
5. transponder stubby aerial/vhf aerial
6. 2x mobility dry cell 12v batteries
7.emergency led nav lights
8.c 90 continental engine or parts there of (may be ok)
9 cub prop (from UK hoped)
10. undercarriage leg/ piece of cabane ( from UK hoped)
11. Galaxy mobile phone
12. 1st Aid kit
13. fuses/electrical wire
14.small venturi
15.Cub J3L4 part of engine cowlings
16. Wing oot fairings or parts there of
17.grey duct tape
18.Don's equivalent of 'get dents out of leading edges' kit!
19. And any old Garmin GPS, I am told, is all the rage these days
my new Kenya number is: +254713600723
Maurice is currently shacked up by kind invitation of the second oldest flying club in the world, Aero Club of East Africa. Don, I am with a ' learn yourself Swaheli book in one 100 easy moves.....for my jaunt, after urgent re build down from 'Twiggy's front garden, in Loki to Vic Falls.
May go back to Narus on a borrowed motor bike to request the above aircraft parts back as only the watch of my dash and batteries, under my seat are of any use to the poor stricken people...ALSo, very quiet, it would appear, is the 'adoption' of the school a passing aircraft wing could have flattened!
Brain Storm Primary School photos later
The good news is he appears to enjoy his present location.


Oh, what a night in Aero Club of East Africa....please pass me another asperin!
source https://www.facebook.com/maurice.kirk.92?ref=br_rs

Planemike 20th Dec 2016 15:37

If you have to be stranded in Africa the Aero Club of East Africa would be one of the better places to choose. Tusker available, what more can you want...??? Well, I guess in Maurice's case a serviceable Piper Cub.....!!!

FlyingGoat 20th Dec 2016 17:59

I'm not a fan of the MK Charity Circus, but I'll be passing through Nairobi next week, from the UK, via the Aero Club. If anyone's in a festive-season mood, I could (perhaps) take some of the requested kit out to him....

AfricanEagle 20th Dec 2016 20:06

Bravo FlyingGoat:ok:

Mike Flynn 20th Dec 2016 22:19

I have two threads running and it is interesting to compare Kirk and his adventures to the synthetic flying of the "Aviatrix".

Given a choice of viewing Maurice would come out tops.

If I was a gambler I would put money on him making Cape Town.

As someone who hates litigation and social problems I have to confess he is not on my New Year wish list.

However the old boy deserves respect for his flying exploits in a Cub.

He has pushed that airframe way beyond its design.

It would not be my choice for long distance flying.

For that alone he deserves an award from both the Air League and the LAA.

terry holloway 20th Dec 2016 22:29


Originally Posted by Jay Sata (Post 9615845)
I have two threads running and it is interesting to compare Kirk and his adventures to the synthetic flying of the "Aviatrix".

Given a choice of viewing Maurice would come out tops.

If I was a gambler I would put money on him making Cape Town.

As someone who hates litigation and social problems I have to confess he is not on my New Year wish list.

However the old boy deserves respect for his flying exploits in a Cub.

I would never want to fly or drive in such a basic vehicle.

He has pushed that airframe way beyond its design.

For that alone he deserves an award from both the Air League and the LAA.

The Air League awards committee sits on 11 Jan, and notwithstanding that I have not received a formal nomination for him, I have placed Maurice's name on the agenda list for discussion and consideration.

Mike Flynn 20th Dec 2016 22:56

I would like to nominate him Terry but would not want to appear to have an agenda proposing him against TCT.

Maurice has a track record of opposing the rules,authority and not giving up when others would walk away.

His predicament in South Sudan is a classic example.

He got himself and the aircraft out when many predicted it was the end.

His attitude to life has been on his terms.

I respect him for that.

(I should perhaps say my support stops at any sort of direct involvment which history suggests problems to say the least!)

How a formal proposal for such an award leaves me scratching my head. When I suggested to Peter Benn at the HCAP that Lachlan Smart might be worth a Masters Medal for his record breaking solo flight around the world it involved a complicated submission that I walked away from.

TCT got one of the back of a PR company.

What and how would a citation for Kirk entail?

terry holloway 21st Dec 2016 07:25


Originally Posted by Jay Sata (Post 9615877)
I would like to nominate him Terry but would not want to appear to have an agenda proposing him against TCT.

Maurice has a track record of opposing the rules,authority and not giving up when others would walk away.

His predicament in South Sudan is a classic example.

He got himself and the aircraft out when many predicted it was the end.

His attitude to life has been on his terms.

I respect him for that.

(I should perhaps say my support stops at any sort of direct involvment which history suggests problems to say the least!)

How a formal proposal for such an award leaves me scratching my head. When I suggested to Peter Benn at the HCAP that Lachlan Smart might be worth a Masters Medal for his record breaking solo flight around the world it involved a complicated submission that I walked away from.

TCT got one of the back of a PR company.

What and how would a citation for Kirk entail?

It would require around 500 to 1000 words outlining what he has achieved in the field of aviation as a pilot, with a particular emphasis on the encouragement of others either into a career in aviation or by promoting aviation to the public at large through his personal endeavours, and through positive publicity in the media.
The question for the awards committee would be whether the "positives" outweigh all the negative stuff - of which there is plenty. I personally have a regard for his stick and rudder skills and his tenacity.

Onmybike 21st Dec 2016 10:03

I reckon somehow the start of this video should be used to show him promoting aviation. I think the start of this video is as good as you get.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOPY5tydDVg

Jonzarno 21st Dec 2016 14:55


Originally Posted by Jay Sata (Post 9615845)
I have two threads running and it is interesting to compare Kirk and his adventures to the synthetic flying of the "Aviatrix".

Given a choice of viewing Maurice would come out tops.

If I was a gambler I would put money on him making Cape Town.

As someone who hates litigation and social problems I have to confess he is not on my New Year wish list.

However the old boy deserves respect for his flying exploits in a Cub.

He has pushed that airframe way beyond its design.

It would not be my choice for long distance flying.

For that alone he deserves an award from both the Air League and the LAA.

It strikes me that helping MK to get out of his mess, whether financially or logistically, might well provide an opportunity for a sponsor with a damaged reputation to restore their image both in the aviation community and provide great exposure to a wider audience at a small fraction of the cost of any apparently misguided previous sponsorship of an aviation exploit that didn't quite "do what it said on the tin".

Any takers? The Greek Goddess of the Hunt perhaps? :)


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