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Cessnafly 27th Oct 2016 14:46

Discount that factual evidence B70.

In fact, even discount the headline which you read about the 'epic solo' on that clip too.

It's all a deceitful commercial scam, labelled up with some glossy awards to make the tin look good.

rugmuncher 27th Oct 2016 15:00

Some back peddaling and damage limitation exercises going on over at the Light Aircraft forum.

View topic - Tracey Curtis-Taylor | Light Aircraft Association

(Seems only fair to reference them as everyone else is referenceing PP.)

TCT needs to make a public statement about recent revelations. Perhaps dig into HER well lined pockets and make a donation herself to some of the charities she was meant to be supporting with her sham of an adventure under the guise of Bird-&-Bloke-In a BiPlane.

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY 27th Oct 2016 15:50

I am going to try and find the link with Portsmouth Uni and TCT, and how she came up for an honorary Doctorate.

Searching their pages (all public on the web) I chuckled at this bit about the Board of Governors:

The Board observes the seven principles of public life:
Selflessness
Integrity
Objectivity
Accountability
Openness
Honesty
Leadership


I wonder how many of those boxes TCT ticks.

Source: What does the board do... About us | Board of Governors | University of Portsmouth

For the avoidance of doubt I am not questioning the integrity or principles of a fine University or its staff. Simply highlighting a difference perhaps in standards between it and its new Honorary Doctor.

Haraka 27th Oct 2016 16:10

Interesting to see the almost logarithmic escalation in viewing statistics over on the Wiki site, post the LAA announcement. The evident now near hysterical editing frenzy can also be tracked easily on the revision history visible under "View History".
It looks like this site is heading for a very limited future existence .

JW411 27th Oct 2016 16:29

Since there seems to be an undercurrent running in this thread about possible influence, is it of any interest to remind ourselves that Prince Michael of Kent is also Grand Master of The Grand Lodge of Mark Master Masons?

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY 27th Oct 2016 16:40

I believe there may be a link with Portsmouth Uni and TCT via Tim Kelly.

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/timkellycommsconsultant

Quote from linkdin

Director of Communications
VELUX 5 OCEANS RACE
October 2007 September 2011 (4 years)
- Direct management and control of the media and marketing budget, totalling 2.6 million, on behalf of the title sponsor of 9 month round-the-world yacht race
- Conception and implementation of the global communications strategy and brand visual identity, overseeing selection and direct management of the media team
- Editorial lead in all audiovisual, written and photographic content, as well as management of digital profiles (websites and social networks), global press relations and developing traditional print materials, including newspaper supplements/magazines
- Executive Producer for 9 x 1 hour documentary shown on Discovery Network worldwide
- Final evaluation showed the race delivered in excess of 200 million global media value
- The close relationship with the title sponsors saw an integral role in activating the sponsorship, ensuring rights were delivered and developing brand guidelines
- The global nature of the events saw me manage sponsorship rights for additional stakeholders (host cities, partners), including winning new sponsors (e.g Maersk Line)
VELUX 5 OCEANS partners up with the University of Portsmouth

Right Hand Thread 27th Oct 2016 16:43

Portsmouth Poly were warned about this. I know, I wrote to them.

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY 27th Oct 2016 16:52


Originally Posted by Right Hand Thread (Post 9558131)
Portsmouth Poly were warned about this. I know, I wrote to them.

Would you care to share what was written to them? Did you get a reply?

I am sure Jay and Sam would be interested (I know I am :ok: )

piperboy84 27th Oct 2016 16:54

My good friend and pilot Brad Van Liew competed in and I believe won one of the Velux 5 "Around Alone" races. I'll ask him about the PR team on that project.

B70 27th Oct 2016 16:55

Looks like you might have found it, SWB. 'Oh what a tangled web we weave..........'

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY 27th Oct 2016 17:04


Originally Posted by B70 (Post 9558142)
Looks like you might have found it, SWB. 'Oh what a tangled web we weave..........'

That is bloody spooky B70, as I was typing my post I actually said to myself those exact same words. :eek:

9 lives 27th Oct 2016 17:50

I read with interest, the action taken by the LAA, and I think positively for them for it. I am not a member of the LAA (wrong side of an ocean), however, they do represent me - I am a pilot and aircraft owner, so in the broad interpretation, I represent general aviation, and so do they.

As such their decision corrects an error which was made, and restores faith in pilots/owners in the broad sense. When one in our group brings disrespect upon themselves, they bring a small amount upon us too. We are entitled in a small way to defend our general reputation, and to express disapproval when one of us violates our reputation.

I note with interest that in the last few days, of 2008 Olympics athletes who were retroactively stripped of awards due to their deception:

6 More Athletes Stripped of Medals From 2008 Olympics | NBC4 Washington

I read that the accused athletes were guilty of only one or two cases of deception, not the multiple cases which TCT has obviously presented to the public. So, I think it entirely reasonable that TCT not receive an undeserved award now, so that it does not need to be rescinded later.

We pilots make our pastime more honourable by not tolerating dishonour in our ranks, be those ranks the LAA, or pilots worldwide, or the HCAP, who also represent me as a pilot.

Jonzarno 27th Oct 2016 17:57

It seems to me that HCAP have rather painted themselves into a corner:

Either they go ahead and keep changing the citation until they find some formulation that can act as a fig-leaf to justify the award, no matter how implausibly; or they withdraw it and upset an important and "prominent" part of their constituency.

In short they have to decide between doing what they almost certainly know to be right, and what will keep The Nobs happy.

Sadly, it looks like they lack the courage to do the former and, as a result, will lose all credibility with a major part of the community they claim to represent. I'm not a member but, if I was, I would definitely resign over this.

To the HCAP committee deciding on this award: if any of you is reading this, look at yourselves in the mirror and ask yourselves if this award really reflects what HCAP is meant to represent. REALLY?

tubby linton 27th Oct 2016 18:29

The HCAP will either have to acknowledge that they have made a serious error of judgement and potentially embarrass their patrons or if they wish to retain some of their professional standing reverse their decisions. i would bet that they go with the former and lose any form of credibility within the international aviation community.
I have often thought about joining the HCAP after thirty years of professional aviating but I will now not bother.

SATCOS WHIPPING BOY 27th Oct 2016 18:58


Originally Posted by airpolice (Post 9558238)
I'm confident that I am not alone in thinking that it is too late for the HCAP to save face.

Their refusal to step away from the liar a lot sooner than today will be their downfall.

No, you are alone...



...but others are with you.;)

clivewatson 27th Oct 2016 19:09

Tubby,

If they reverse the decision tonight to award her I PROMISE to do one flight completely naked. Not a pretty sight I admit, but I'll do it in front of witnesses FOR SURE.

Tracey Curtis Taylor is undoubtedly a pilot of questionable ability. Accounts of her experience, flight training, and previous exploits are long on claim and short on evidence. By her own admission she has demonstrated a total disregard of accepted airmanship standards, rules of the air, international procedures and compliance with ATC instructions. Her claimed exploits demonstrate that she is a potential danger to those who may find themselves sharing any controlled or regulated airspace with her. As to the question of whether or not she had a valid licence to fly her Stearman previously, I don't yet know and will not make any claims - but I am looking into it.

Tracey. My name is Clive Watson. I'm a professional pilot. Your legal team may contact me by email addressed to [email protected]. I will respond.

tubby linton 27th Oct 2016 19:21

The FAA airman database yields the following-

Personal Information
TRACEY CURTIS-TAYLOR

Address is not available
Medical
No Medical Available.
Certificates
PRIVATE PILOT(FOREIGN BASED)
Date of Issue: 9/23/2013
Certificate: PRIVATE PILOT(FOREIGN BASED)
Ratings:
PRIVATE PILOT (Foreign Based)
AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND

Limits:
ENGLISH PROFICIENT.
ISSUED ON BASIS OF AND VALID ONLY WHEN ACCOMPANIED BY UNITED KINGDOM PILOT LICENSE NUMBER(S) GBR.FCL.PP.3365 94H.A.
ALL LIMITATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS ON THE UNITED KINGDOM PILOT LICENSE APPLY.

GRITSCH EWALD
Date of Issue: 9/23/2013
Certificate: PRIVATE PILOT(FOREIGN BASED)
Ratings:
PRIVATE PILOT (Foreign Based)
AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND
AIRPLANE MULTIENGINE LAND

Limits:
ENGLISH PROFICIENT.
ISSUED ON BASIS OF AND VALID ONLY WHEN ACCOMPANIED BY AUSTRIA PILOT LICENSE NUMBER(S) AT.FCL.4555.
ALL LIMITATIONS AND RESTRICTIONS ON THE AUSTRIA PILOT LICENSE APPLY.

The Old Fat One 27th Oct 2016 19:25

SWB,

I've thought for a while the University of Portsmouth is fertile ground for opening things up.

First, they are a public sector body and therefore subject to the Freedom of Information Act

Freedom of Information Act 2000 | Freedom of Information Act 2000 | University of Portsmouth

Second, they will have Students Union. Students Unions (general) have a history of getting involved with discredited honouray awards.

Constructing an email including the words:

nepotism, royal family, big business, celebrity cult, post-factual politics, quasi-legal intimidation, social media, the BBC, investment companies, global multi-nationals etc etc (my word, such a lot of ammo)

Should get them nicely wound up.

clivewatson 27th Oct 2016 19:38

Thanks Tubby, I was simply wondering if TCT may have flown the Stearman on any international flights before Sept 23rd 2013. Or perhaps Ewald may have done, although it seems that he and her obtained their FAA licences at the same time. Just thinking.

The Old Fat One 27th Oct 2016 19:44

I've been digging around using Google to tie in TCT with Artemis with a view to getting the FCA involved if Artemis are out of line with the advertising which is subject to FCA compliance. In fairness to Artemis, they seem to have cut the cord...I can't find any direct reference on their websites.

However, I did stumble over this...

SPIRIT OF ARTEMIS ? THE PROFIT BIRD IN FLIGHT | LIBERTINE LONDON

Note the wording:

We were down at the Goodwood Revival Festival last week to bid farewell to pilot Tracey-Curtis Taylor before she embarks on a solo flight in her open cockpit plane – Spirit of Artemis – from Cape Town to Goodwood.

I'm not sure who Libertine are, or if it is worth following up, but the internet is a big beast, so i thought i'd post it in case it helps.


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