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Originally Posted by QSY1215
(Post 10396807)
Many will be delighted at the news and no doubt can't wait till the 15th March (sentence date). RM like us all has his faults but having known him and his ways for close on 21 years he is an down to earth decent enough chap-unlike most of the back stabbers on here who can't wait to hit the keyboard. He gave many myself included their early steps into aviation and for that if nothing else I for one will always be grateful.
For today is judgement day ? Be lucky Davido |
Originally Posted by Mike Flynn
(Post 10404671)
The CAA really need to get their act together and do their job of protecting the public from these cowboys. The Barton incident could have easily ended in a major tragedy if that PA28 had crashed on the nearby motorway. Elsewhere there is the case of the Sala crash and lots of potential for similar incidents with Wingly etc. Why would anyone want to get an AOC and employ properly trained commercial pilots only to see these unlicensed flyboys undercut them? |
Fly BPL
Sentenced today for 3 1/2 years
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Having read the Manchester Evening News article he deserved longer. I do wonder what is happening to the pilots of the other 4 flights he arranged, or was he the pilot on them all. What at an utter Cnut. SND |
Originally Posted by Sir Niall Dementia
(Post 10420571)
Having read the Manchester Evening News article he deserved longer. I do wonder what is happening to the pilots of the other 4 flights he arranged, or was he the pilot on them all. What at an utter Cnut. SND |
Will I be the sole dissenting voice, if I say that I find the sentence here to be excessive?
I came across RM in the early noughties at BPL but have had no contact with him since. As others have said, he also struck me as a generally good bloke. Sure, he has broken the law, it has had consequences, and he thus deserves to be punished. But 3.5 years? That is more than some people get for serious assaults, where the harm to the victim is intentional and not merely negligent (or even wreckless). Also there is part of this story that doesn't add up. He took these pax on his own aircraft, the performance of which he would have known very well. He was a v experienced pilot. This was a doomed flight from the outset. These are not actions motivated by greed - rather, desperation. I can only suppose he was in great financial distress. Long and short is, I hope RM appeals his sentence (not conviction), and is successful in so doing. The punishment should fit the crime - and here, it does not. |
Considering the wreckage, an appropriately ironic spelling of reckless there! :) |
Ha ha thanks FBM... post was post-several fine German beers
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@KeyPilot: thank you for playing "the devil's advocate" - it is always good to consider both sides of a medal. I will go along with you up to a certain point. Yes this person must have been desperate for cash, and yes he might be expected to know what he was doing in his usual plane. And indeed there was no proven intention to harm, "gross neglicence" would be the overall term for me. Still, for a person with his experience and his reputation, he really ought to have known better. Even here we could see how several people took their example from him. The judgement, as I read it, is basically meant to end his flying career for once and for good, and that seems appropriate. And, if UK is still somewhat similar to the rest of the world, he'll be released long before 3,5 years; jails are too expensive to keep up full time, these days,
As for the beer: I dare you to fly across to Belgium and try the really good stuff! |
'What a crock of sh*t'... the lying pilot who narrowly missed the M62 when he crashed at Barton Aerodrome and STILL thinks he's a hero
Prosecutor Henry Blackshaw told the court that police investigations have subsequently revealed information that should have been disclosed to the insurers, and would likely have increased the price of the premium or meant he would have been refused insurance altogether.
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To summarise, Murgatroyd was back in Manchester Crown Court on Friday (4 Oct 19), where he pleaded guilty to an offence of fraud, of making a false declaration to obtain insurance, and was sentenced to a further (consecutive) term of 22 weeks.
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Originally Posted by LookingForAJob
(Post 10587287)
Two thoughts..... good decision by Judge Leeming, and surely Murgatroyd's abode should have started with HMP.
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KeyPilot
"ill I be the sole dissenting voice, if I say that I find the sentence here to be excessive? I came across RM in the early noughties at BPL but have had no contact with him since. As others have said, he also struck me as a generally good bloke. Sure, he has broken the law, it has had consequences, and he thus deserves to be punished. But 3.5 years? That is more than some people get for serious assaults, where the harm to the victim is intentional and not merely negligent (or even wreckless). Also there is part of this story that doesn't add up. He took these pax on his own aircraft, the performance of which he would have known very well. He was a v experienced pilot. This was a doomed flight from the outset. These are not actions motivated by greed - rather, desperation. I can only suppose he was in great financial distress. Long and short is, I hope RM appeals his sentence (not conviction), and is successful in so doing. The punishment should fit the crime - and here, it does not." |
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