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If you think you're the only person here who'd like to live in a crime free society, I'll tell you now I think you're very wrong.
I don't think you were wrong at all thinking it's important that criminals should be caught - most people on here would definatley agree with that!
I quote from your earlier post.....
Are you saying that teenagers shouldn't be allowed out without a parent / gaurdian after certain hours? If this is so, what happens when the young adult reaches the age where they are allowed out alone? Surely it would be rather daunting for them? And could it not be seen as punishing the many for the errors of the few?
To go off at a slight tangent from the original thread (I hope you don't mind, Fly Stimulator)................
I'll admit that I drink in pubs, even though in the eyes of that law I'm not old enough. My parents are aware of this, and know that I am sensible enough to behave properly, and know that if I get asked challenged on the age front, I won't lie or argue at all.
Many of my friends also drink in pubs, and I know of many people my age (and older) that also do, but face bigger problems than myslef and my friends.
I'm generalising horrifically here, but I would say that the people that face problems with pubs more are the "yoofish" people that have been spoken of in the thread.
From my experience, they will also be a lot less welcome in most pubs than the people that know how to behave (like I think / hope I can).
As a result of going to pubs, I've spent a fair time walking from one place to another on streets that are often invested with yoofish figures that have problems interacting with normal human beings.
If the police want to stop crime, in my opinion, they have "got to get" these yoofish figures. As I said in an earlier post on this thread, I think our police force fails miserabley in this respect - but we can't change that.
Stopping under 18s (or whatever) going on the streets alone isn't going to help anything - it's going amplify the problem tenfold. By saying kids can't do something is only going to make it worse.
If the police really do want to solve the crime problem in this country, they've got to change the way they act towards kids, and cut out all the bureaucratic crap and get on with their job - again, see my earlier post.
This is all purely my opinion, and I could understand if you think I'm contradicting myself, admitting in one breath I drunk in pubs, but then saying in the same breath that young offenders should be dealt with more harshly. But my overall view is that you have to look at the severity of the crimes, and punish accordingly.
tKF
PS Very said Whirly!!!!!
If you think you're the only person here who'd like to live in a crime free society, I'll tell you now I think you're very wrong.
I don't think you were wrong at all thinking it's important that criminals should be caught - most people on here would definatley agree with that!
I quote from your earlier post.....
Point taken, however the responsible, well balanced, well behaved majority who respect other people and their property can always have a parent or guardian accompany or transport them.
To go off at a slight tangent from the original thread (I hope you don't mind, Fly Stimulator)................
I'll admit that I drink in pubs, even though in the eyes of that law I'm not old enough. My parents are aware of this, and know that I am sensible enough to behave properly, and know that if I get asked challenged on the age front, I won't lie or argue at all.
Many of my friends also drink in pubs, and I know of many people my age (and older) that also do, but face bigger problems than myslef and my friends.
I'm generalising horrifically here, but I would say that the people that face problems with pubs more are the "yoofish" people that have been spoken of in the thread.
From my experience, they will also be a lot less welcome in most pubs than the people that know how to behave (like I think / hope I can).
As a result of going to pubs, I've spent a fair time walking from one place to another on streets that are often invested with yoofish figures that have problems interacting with normal human beings.
If the police want to stop crime, in my opinion, they have "got to get" these yoofish figures. As I said in an earlier post on this thread, I think our police force fails miserabley in this respect - but we can't change that.
Stopping under 18s (or whatever) going on the streets alone isn't going to help anything - it's going amplify the problem tenfold. By saying kids can't do something is only going to make it worse.
If the police really do want to solve the crime problem in this country, they've got to change the way they act towards kids, and cut out all the bureaucratic crap and get on with their job - again, see my earlier post.
This is all purely my opinion, and I could understand if you think I'm contradicting myself, admitting in one breath I drunk in pubs, but then saying in the same breath that young offenders should be dealt with more harshly. But my overall view is that you have to look at the severity of the crimes, and punish accordingly.
tKF
PS Very said Whirly!!!!!
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C'mon guys I think you're being a bit harsh on old Blip here.
He was merly suggesting a soloution to the problems of the area, if it worked in the USA why could it not work there?
I see your point also, i'm 18 an i'd be mighty pissed off if I was restricted in any way because of certain individuals, but as long as the police do their job in finding the offenders then all would be well.
We live in a sick world where people get their kicks from destroying others properties, we have to live with it and do drastic things to counteract it.
He was merly suggesting a soloution to the problems of the area, if it worked in the USA why could it not work there?
I see your point also, i'm 18 an i'd be mighty pissed off if I was restricted in any way because of certain individuals, but as long as the police do their job in finding the offenders then all would be well.
We live in a sick world where people get their kicks from destroying others properties, we have to live with it and do drastic things to counteract it.
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Blip,
No problem. It's a very long time since I was a teenager
, so I was just defending others' trodden on toes...and making a point.
Ian,
The point is actually about prejudice. Teenagers did this (although we don't even know that!) so all teenagers are bad. A dangerous deduction. Today it's teenagers, tomorrow old people, women, blacks, rural dwellers, Jews, people who fly taildraggers, anyone with dark hair... Do you see what I'm saying? DEFINITELY punish the offender(s); I'm for dropping him/her/them out at 3000 foot without a parachute. PC and kid gloves have NOTHING to do with this!!!! But let's punish the one(s) who did this, not others who appear superficially to be like them, but aren't.
No problem. It's a very long time since I was a teenager
, so I was just defending others' trodden on toes...and making a point.Ian,
The point is actually about prejudice. Teenagers did this (although we don't even know that!) so all teenagers are bad. A dangerous deduction. Today it's teenagers, tomorrow old people, women, blacks, rural dwellers, Jews, people who fly taildraggers, anyone with dark hair... Do you see what I'm saying? DEFINITELY punish the offender(s); I'm for dropping him/her/them out at 3000 foot without a parachute. PC and kid gloves have NOTHING to do with this!!!! But let's punish the one(s) who did this, not others who appear superficially to be like them, but aren't.
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The best thing that could have happened to them during their little waltz around the airfield would have been for a fuel tank to have ruptured and a convenient spark taught them a lesson they would never forget.
