Next Fly-In - Sherburn, 7th June.
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Next Fly-In - Sherburn, 7th June.
Well, Sherburn is definitely the winner in the poll, and Saturday 7th June seems to be the most popular day, so let's go for it. Knobby has said he'll liaise with the airfield, and hopefully someone who knows about these things can make us a sign-up page on whatever site it is we use, and provide a link. So...see you all there.
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Right, I'll liaise with them tomorrow - check there's nothing else planned for that day. I'll draw up some 'airfield information' nearer the time as well, although it's pretty straight forward and they're a friendly lot.
You'll be glad (if other threads are anything to go by) that the a/g radio service is excellent - exactly what it should be, unintrusive, but helpful when required with no 'little hitler' controllers.
You'll be glad (if other threads are anything to go by) that the a/g radio service is excellent - exactly what it should be, unintrusive, but helpful when required with no 'little hitler' controllers.
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I agree entirely about Sherburn's A/G radio operators. I've only flown in there once, but I was most impressed; they gave you all the information you needed, but if you asked for anything else, they didn't give it, and refused to "tell" you what to do. I realised it was the first time I'd been to an airfield where A/G operators did it by the book; all the others I'd run into had either been trying to do too much, or simply been incompetent or not there when needed. One of the many good things about Sherburn, along with the food, the surroundings...in case you hadn't gathered, I rather like the place.
I agree entirely about Sherburn's A/G radio operators. I've only flown in there once, but I was most impressed; they gave you all the information you needed, but if you asked for anything else, they didn't give it, and refused to "tell" you what to do. I realised it was the first time I'd been to an airfield where A/G operators did it by the book; all the others I'd run into had either been trying to do too much, or simply been incompetent or not there when needed. One of the many good things about Sherburn, along with the food, the surroundings...in case you hadn't gathered, I rather like the place.
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This may be superflous given that Knobby plans to post the details, but the airfield information can be found on the website
http://www.sherburn-aero-club.org.uk
I've just joined Sherburn, having trained in the US and they couldn't have been more accomodating. Just watch out for the strange shaped circuits on some of the runways and don't overfly the NIMBY'S.
http://www.sherburn-aero-club.org.uk
I've just joined Sherburn, having trained in the US and they couldn't have been more accomodating. Just watch out for the strange shaped circuits on some of the runways and don't overfly the NIMBY'S.
Sherburn sounds good, hopefully I'll be able to make it with a bit of leave schedule juggling
Fancy flying up together crossedcontrols ??
I'll have room for a little un in the Auster.
Fancy flying up together crossedcontrols ??
I'll have room for a little un in the Auster.
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Looks like being a busy day.
Think I will pop along althogh I wasn't planning on flying that day just to try and meet a few fellow PPRUNE'rs.
One thing they do ask for (as mentioned quite a lot in another thread) is to join overhead at 1500' rather than straight in.
Wx permitting you will al be able to try the new tarmac r/w complete with APAPI.
See you there.
Think I will pop along althogh I wasn't planning on flying that day just to try and meet a few fellow PPRUNE'rs.
One thing they do ask for (as mentioned quite a lot in another thread) is to join overhead at 1500' rather than straight in.
Wx permitting you will al be able to try the new tarmac r/w complete with APAPI.
See you there.
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Right, as promised I’ve written ‘An idiots guide to arriving at Sherburn’. I know most experienced pilots won’t need this, but it’s aimed at people like me who are a bit unsure when going to new places. I’ve deliberatley left out any information that’s oficially available such as frequencies, and concentrated on ‘local knowledge’.
Approach info
Sherburn is within the Church Fenton MATZ and Fenton are usually active at the weekend. It’s a satellite field to Linton-on-Ouse – used for training and home to a fleet of Firefly’s. If you’re arriving from the south, you’ll probably be getting a LARS from Waddington Zone and should be handed over to Fenton abeam Doncaster (fly over Finningley while it’s still in uncontrolled airspace!).
A good visual landmark when arriving from the south are the three power stations spread west to east along the M62. The airfield itself is 10nm further north and is easy to spot due to the white/grey industrial units to the NW of the field – easily visible from 15nm or so on a good day. Sherburn has an NDB (SBL, 323.0) with a promulgated range of 10nm but it usually ‘works’ from at least 30nm.
Fenton will clear you to enter the MATZ ‘Not above 1500ft Fenton QFE’ and ask you to report the field in sight. Outbound aircraft usually leave the zone at 1000ft on the Sherburn QFE, usually to the south or east to avoid the Fenton ATZ, so it’s a good idea to remain at around 1500ft if possible.
For anyone arriving from the west, Leeds approach are usually very happy to allow zone transit if required. From the North, Linton Zone will usually request that a/c remain west of the A1 until the A1/M62 junction and penetrate the Fenton MATZ from the west to avoid the Fenton ATZ. Overhead Selby is the preferred route from the east. Beware of Burn gliding site 10nm SE of the field.
Overhead joins are at 1500ft on the Sherburn QFE and circuits are generally to the south south-east or west of the field depending on the runway is use. Fenton keep their circuits to the north or east to avoid conflict Much of the activity at the field is training, and it’s not unusual for there to be 4 or 5 aircraft in the circuit for most of the day, so overhead joins are preferred. There is a helicopter training school on the field and the rotary circuit is inside the fixed-wing circuit.
The villages in the area are VERY noise sensitive – a whole 2 pages of Pooleys are dedicated to noise abatement procedures. This makes some of the circuits a bit odd shaped but they’re by no means ‘cross-countries’.
If one of the grass runways 25/06 or 29/11 are in use, the usual procedure on landing is to taxi around the remainder of the triangle rather than backtrack. If the tarmac runway is in use, there is a parallel taxiway. There is a very good airfield diagram on the website (select ‘airfield information’ then ‘airfield layout schematic’) which gives more info than the one in the AIP.
Fuel and parking
Parking is usually along either side of taxiway A (see diagram) or on the grass area to the north, although this is usually used mainly for helicopter training/parking. The area around the fuel pumps and hangars on the main apron is cramped and crowded and so aircraft not requiring hard-stand parking will probably be moved after refuelling.
Fuel is relatively cheap - currently 89p/litre, and the landing fee of £5 is waived on fuel purchase
Facilities
The clubhouse is fairly basic but comfortable. Food and drinks are available all day (including licensed bar for any passengers). The bar/café is run by Sue and I can thoroughly recommend her ‘all day breakfast’.
The place is small enough that we should have no problem meeting up – hopefully it’ll be hard NOT to bump into PPRuNers everywhere one looks.
There’s a pool table in the bar if anybody fancies organising a PPRuNe pool tournament, by the way.
There’s a dedicated room for flight planning (something lacking at Duxford), and the weather reports/Notams etc. are available. The people behind the flight-desk (probably Mike on a Saturday) are friendly and helpful, although ususally very busy.
Departure
The airfield closes at 20:00 local. Sunset isn’t until 21:31 on 7th June but local planning regulations forbid flying after 20:00
Departure from the ATZ/MATZ is usually at 1000ft on the Sherburn QFE to avoid inbounds, and to the south, west or east (although Fenton usually closes by 17:00).
Hope this all helps. Feel free to ask questions if needed. If there’s anything I’ve missed or got wrong, I’m sure other locals will chip in. I’m calling in tomorrow so I’ll ask them about what PPR is required. I suspect they’ll be happy with a copy of the online list as Duxford were.
Approach info
Sherburn is within the Church Fenton MATZ and Fenton are usually active at the weekend. It’s a satellite field to Linton-on-Ouse – used for training and home to a fleet of Firefly’s. If you’re arriving from the south, you’ll probably be getting a LARS from Waddington Zone and should be handed over to Fenton abeam Doncaster (fly over Finningley while it’s still in uncontrolled airspace!).
A good visual landmark when arriving from the south are the three power stations spread west to east along the M62. The airfield itself is 10nm further north and is easy to spot due to the white/grey industrial units to the NW of the field – easily visible from 15nm or so on a good day. Sherburn has an NDB (SBL, 323.0) with a promulgated range of 10nm but it usually ‘works’ from at least 30nm.
Fenton will clear you to enter the MATZ ‘Not above 1500ft Fenton QFE’ and ask you to report the field in sight. Outbound aircraft usually leave the zone at 1000ft on the Sherburn QFE, usually to the south or east to avoid the Fenton ATZ, so it’s a good idea to remain at around 1500ft if possible.
For anyone arriving from the west, Leeds approach are usually very happy to allow zone transit if required. From the North, Linton Zone will usually request that a/c remain west of the A1 until the A1/M62 junction and penetrate the Fenton MATZ from the west to avoid the Fenton ATZ. Overhead Selby is the preferred route from the east. Beware of Burn gliding site 10nm SE of the field.
Overhead joins are at 1500ft on the Sherburn QFE and circuits are generally to the south south-east or west of the field depending on the runway is use. Fenton keep their circuits to the north or east to avoid conflict Much of the activity at the field is training, and it’s not unusual for there to be 4 or 5 aircraft in the circuit for most of the day, so overhead joins are preferred. There is a helicopter training school on the field and the rotary circuit is inside the fixed-wing circuit.
The villages in the area are VERY noise sensitive – a whole 2 pages of Pooleys are dedicated to noise abatement procedures. This makes some of the circuits a bit odd shaped but they’re by no means ‘cross-countries’.
If one of the grass runways 25/06 or 29/11 are in use, the usual procedure on landing is to taxi around the remainder of the triangle rather than backtrack. If the tarmac runway is in use, there is a parallel taxiway. There is a very good airfield diagram on the website (select ‘airfield information’ then ‘airfield layout schematic’) which gives more info than the one in the AIP.
Fuel and parking
Parking is usually along either side of taxiway A (see diagram) or on the grass area to the north, although this is usually used mainly for helicopter training/parking. The area around the fuel pumps and hangars on the main apron is cramped and crowded and so aircraft not requiring hard-stand parking will probably be moved after refuelling.
Fuel is relatively cheap - currently 89p/litre, and the landing fee of £5 is waived on fuel purchase
Facilities
The clubhouse is fairly basic but comfortable. Food and drinks are available all day (including licensed bar for any passengers). The bar/café is run by Sue and I can thoroughly recommend her ‘all day breakfast’.
The place is small enough that we should have no problem meeting up – hopefully it’ll be hard NOT to bump into PPRuNers everywhere one looks.
There’s a pool table in the bar if anybody fancies organising a PPRuNe pool tournament, by the way.
There’s a dedicated room for flight planning (something lacking at Duxford), and the weather reports/Notams etc. are available. The people behind the flight-desk (probably Mike on a Saturday) are friendly and helpful, although ususally very busy.
Departure
The airfield closes at 20:00 local. Sunset isn’t until 21:31 on 7th June but local planning regulations forbid flying after 20:00
Departure from the ATZ/MATZ is usually at 1000ft on the Sherburn QFE to avoid inbounds, and to the south, west or east (although Fenton usually closes by 17:00).
Hope this all helps. Feel free to ask questions if needed. If there’s anything I’ve missed or got wrong, I’m sure other locals will chip in. I’m calling in tomorrow so I’ll ask them about what PPR is required. I suspect they’ll be happy with a copy of the online list as Duxford were.
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Knobby
I think you got most of it.
Might be Jo on the desk with it being Saturday.
If using 29/11 tarmac, once off the tarmac taxiway a/c should taxi to the apron via the grass 01/19 runway if there are any other a/c taxying out on the tarmac taxiway.
NH
I think you got most of it.
Might be Jo on the desk with it being Saturday.
If using 29/11 tarmac, once off the tarmac taxiway a/c should taxi to the apron via the grass 01/19 runway if there are any other a/c taxying out on the tarmac taxiway.
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we have a good rotorhead group here at sherburn too at least 6 ppruners we have b47,300/500/600 ,22/44,hiller 12c/12e, 206,120,341 enst 280/28f arriving regularly
see you there take you for a ride if my 600 is back from being fixed or have a go in my hiller 12c
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we have a good rotorhead group here at sherburn too at least 6 ppruners we have b47,300/500/600 ,22/44,hiller 12c/12e, 206,120,341 enst 280/28f arriving regularly
see you there take you for a ride if my 600 is back from being fixed or have a go in my hiller 12c
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I'm definitely interested, but depends on aircraft availability.
It's quite a way from Fairoaks for a tyro! Is overnighting an option at Sherburn?
I'll have to fork out for a Northern half-mil Chart, too! Expenses, expenses
BTW, I understand that the revised chart is coming out on May 15, if anyone else from Darn Sarf is thinking of purchasing one.
SD
It's quite a way from Fairoaks for a tyro! Is overnighting an option at Sherburn?
I'll have to fork out for a Northern half-mil Chart, too! Expenses, expenses
BTW, I understand that the revised chart is coming out on May 15, if anyone else from Darn Sarf is thinking of purchasing one.
SD
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Saab Dastard,
When I flew into Sherburn on the way home from Scotland we stayed in a local B & B which we found from a phone number on the notice board there; they even picked us up at the airfield. That was a couple of years ago, but I would imagine it's still possible.
When I flew into Sherburn on the way home from Scotland we stayed in a local B & B which we found from a phone number on the notice board there; they even picked us up at the airfield. That was a couple of years ago, but I would imagine it's still possible.
Grand Day out
Brooklands and I will hopefully be venturing north from Wycombe (might also bring a third crew member to share the flying) - booked a plane for the day this morning.
A nice long trip like this will give us a proper chance to play with the rather capable autopilot in the 172SP.
A nice long trip like this will give us a proper chance to play with the rather capable autopilot in the 172SP.