Parking at major airfields..?

[big.al]

Why is it that six out of every ten topics I post on PPruNe turn into a slanging match between contributors? Us pilots are a fairly rare breed and we should be sticking together for the good of our hobby or profession (whichever applies to you) in order to overcome the objectors and the NIMBYs, not having a go at one another all the time.

Anyway, the weather is brightening up so fingers crossed for my Norwich visit tomorrow. Thanks to all those who responded with positive, useful contributions. I will ensure I carry passport, photo-card driving licence, PPL, medical certificate, high-vis jacket and signed authorisation from the Pope if that's what I need to get back airside. Not sure what ID my passenger will need but I'll suggest Mum brings her passport too....

[singaporegirl]

big.al

Enjoy your trip to Norwich tomorrow. At least the forecast is looking good.

Like the others, I've always found Norwich to be helpful and friendly. It might be worth brushing up on your marshalling signals as well; the first time I landed there it was a bit of a shock to have someone waving fluorescent bats at me and then coming to put chocks under the wheels! I felt really important. And all for half the landing fee at my normal airport...

[rustle]

PhilD,

Unless my reading of Schedule 11 of the ANO is incorrect...

If only things in life were so simple that reading one document gave you all the necessary info.

Sadly not. In this instance any request for additional ID may be legitimate under the 2001 Anti Terrorist rules. (cf the Newcastle SB rules, now relaxed)

Common sense will prevail, but it's far quicker to carry some photo-ID when you want to return airside!

Exeter give you a pass "out" which must be re-presented to get back airside - seems to work well enough.

big.al,

Hope the weather is better tomorrow than it is here currently

[big.al]

Thanks for the advice Singaporegirl. I've never been marshalled yet, and so the table-tennis bat waving will be a new experience, so I shall be revising the Air-Law books tonight to get my marshalling signals right.

If I remember rightly, if the marshaller is waving his/her left arm up and down, they want me to turn to the right, and vice versa. Is this correct? (it's been a while since the Air Law exam!).

PhilD - bright and sunny here in S. Yorks at the moment, but I haven't seen an updated forecast for tomorrow yet. Chance of frost tonight, but it's the possibility of fog patches first thing that could be more of a problem. Expecting to leave Netherthorpe at 9.30am local..... Hope it brightens up in your neck-o-the-woods too.

[Who has control?]

We are planning to visit Norwich on Sunday, but I think we'll give the Met a good scrutiny before deciding.

[big.al]

WHC - don't forget the PPR Sunday afternoon - as has been mentioned earlier in the thread. Hope you have a good trip, wx permitting.

[FlyingForFun]

If I remember rightly, if the marshaller is waving his/her left arm up and down, they want me to turn to the right, and vice versa. Is this correct?

Nope - other way around. It makes sense, as long as the marshaller is facing you. He waves his left arm up and down, which is the arm on the right as you look at him. That means that he wants the right hand side of your aircraft to continue moving, but not the left - i.e. you could apply left brake to get the desired effect, and hence turn to the left. (Of course you wouldn't use left brake, you'd use the rudder pedals, but it's a handy way of thinking about it - the side that's waving keeps moving, and the side that stops, stops.)

Oh boy, I hope I've got that right!

Remember, though, that the signals are the same regardless of which way the marshaller is facing. For example, he could be standing off to your left, waving both arms up and down. That means you have to move forward. It does not mean you have to turn towards him - although that's what you'd probably want to do in that scenario.

Have fun!

FFF
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[skygazer]

FFF, having read your post a couple of times, I think you've just confirmed what Big Al thought in the 1st place; left arm waving up and down when the marshaller is facing you means turn to the right? (as the marshallers right side will be moving if facing you, even though its his left arm).

Doesn't it?

[FlyingForFun]

No. I've just checked with my ATPL notes, and I definitely got it right.

To quote from the Bristol notes:

Turn to your left:

Right arm downard, left arm repeatedly moved upward-backward. Speed of movement indicating rate of turn.

You're right, the marshaller's right side (as you view it) will be moving. His left side will be stationary. So you apply your left brake, i.e. turn to the left.

This would be so much easier with a picture!

FFF
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[distaff_beancounter]

Busy Side Arm + Busy Side Engine

This is my method of remembering it.

So if the marshaller is moving his left arm, (which is on your right) then you open up the right engine, to make the aircraft turn left.

So whichever side you are looking at:-

Busy Side Arm = Busy Side Engine

OR:-

Stationary Side Arm = Apply Brake on that Side

[niknak]

Big Al
You're absolutely spot on - I shouldn't have spoilt the drift of the thread by taking the bait.

Enjoy your trip tommorrow - no doubt we'll talk to each other.

[PhilD]

Big Al

Right now where I am it's:

EGLC 191120Z 26010KT 9999 FEW025 09/01 Q1020=

It looks like great flying weather. Unfortunately I'm on the ground at work not up there and the flying will have to wait until next weekend....

Hope you have a great trip

PhilD