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PhilD,
Just a bit of clarification re transitting Gatwick.
The restriction to fixed wing VFR transits only applies to the aerodrome traffic zone, the rest of the CTZ/CTA is fair game for transitting VFR (subject to the usual caveats atco's like to trot out about workload, other traffic etc).
As far as transitting the Class D IFR, well yes if you want you can request an IFR transit. Unless you really have to though I would always recommend requesting a VFR transit if conditions permit because there is much more flexibilty in terms of what separation (or lack of) needs to be applied by the atco.
For a transit, either VFR or IFR, all that is required by way of a flight plan is a call on the r/t a suitable distance from the Class D boundary.
WF.
Just a bit of clarification re transitting Gatwick.
The restriction to fixed wing VFR transits only applies to the aerodrome traffic zone, the rest of the CTZ/CTA is fair game for transitting VFR (subject to the usual caveats atco's like to trot out about workload, other traffic etc).
As far as transitting the Class D IFR, well yes if you want you can request an IFR transit. Unless you really have to though I would always recommend requesting a VFR transit if conditions permit because there is much more flexibilty in terms of what separation (or lack of) needs to be applied by the atco.
For a transit, either VFR or IFR, all that is required by way of a flight plan is a call on the r/t a suitable distance from the Class D boundary.
WF.
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Firstly...
This isn't a whinge or US is better than UK post but general enquiry..
I haven't flown much in the UK, as PIC nor in controlled airspace in the UK so this is based on what I ve seen and heard, in part on PPRUNE.
In my couple of hundred (rotary) hours in the US I have never had or heard of anyone being refused transit of controlled airspace or ATZ. Including places like LAX.
Yet here it seems common place. Is this due to regs, understaffing in ATC or less trust of PPLs by UK ATCOs?
But have noticed that more refusals seem to be to fixed wing traffic...
Perhaps us rotary types are better, more accomodating, more helpful and generally better pilots!!!!
This isn't a whinge or US is better than UK post but general enquiry..
I haven't flown much in the UK, as PIC nor in controlled airspace in the UK so this is based on what I ve seen and heard, in part on PPRUNE.
In my couple of hundred (rotary) hours in the US I have never had or heard of anyone being refused transit of controlled airspace or ATZ. Including places like LAX.
Yet here it seems common place. Is this due to regs, understaffing in ATC or less trust of PPLs by UK ATCOs?
But have noticed that more refusals seem to be to fixed wing traffic...
Perhaps us rotary types are better, more accomodating, more helpful and generally better pilots!!!!
