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Old 26th Nov 2020, 12:57
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Video about UK CAA and legal matters

I don't know who has produced this but "cat amongst the pigeons" might be a description...

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The video is professionally produced but silly. Over many decades it is true that the CAA Investigations/Prosecution section has behaved appallingly. I have crossed swords with them on more occasions than I care to remember. In defence of others I have witnessed them lying, deceiving and cajoling people into incriminating themselves. They are not people to cooperate with beyond that which the law demands. Name and number (sic) but no more.

Having said all that strong stuff this is not true of the other CAA's more professional departments who always seek to resolve matters in a spirit of cooperation and common sense when a pilot has erred. These people, I have to say, again from experience, work very hard to keep issues away from the 'Rottweilers' if they can and pragmatically seek to resolve matters constructively, from which everyone learns.

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I wonder if Grant Shapps has seen this
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Having been interviewed by a CAA investigator once, it turned out he was a retired police detective so this maybe is the reason for their attitude,
very confrontational and guilty till found innocent. Not a nice experience even though I was not at fault.
As the CEO of a small flying group for several years have had several calls from the CAA and have found it was a good idea to go through a role play with the operating pilot to get their story straight and have reasons and answers to expected question made a big difference to the outcomes.
As with the police remember they are not your friends and be economical with the truth i.e don't incriminate your self.
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be economical with the truth
This is generally taken to be a euphemism for lying, never a good idea. I think possibly what you meant was 'don't answer questions you haven't been asked'.

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ditto..............
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Originally Posted by TheOddOne
This is generally taken to be a euphemism for lying, never a good idea. I think possibly what you meant was 'don't answer questions you haven't been asked'.

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That is correct be careful don't incriminate yourself.
One example we had was an accusation of low flying. The pilot was actual on route and was asked to stay down at 1000agl, due to inbound traffic to a close by military field.
The problem he was over an area used by a lot of Cessna 152s for training and I think there was a noise sensitive person in the area. An airline pilot.
So I discussed this with the pilot that a defence was as ATC had requested it for safety reasons he complied, the aircraft was a Cessna 177RG 36ft wing span and with supersonic prop tips and on full climb power it would have seemed very low and loud if taken for a 152. Practised a few times he contacted the CAA and we heard no more. No lies just the facts plus valid safety reasons and why it looked low.
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